Vettel = Mr Nice Guy?

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14th July 2010, 15:45
Sonic

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Originally Posted by wedge

Nothing to do with favouritism. The weight distribution was wrong.

Indeed. Nico wanted the change just as much because whilst he could drive round the flaws better than old man time, he wanted a faster car. Period. He's still getting the better of him now and all credit to him.
14th July 2010, 18:16
Daniel

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Indeed. Nico wanted the change just as much because whilst he could drive round the flaws better than old man time, he wanted a faster car. Period. He's still getting the better of him now and all credit to him.

Can you please stop ruining a good story? :p
14th July 2010, 22:41
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by ioan

It was bound to happen. He can't be nice forever while others keep being rude.

Vettel never was nice. He is in fact the fakest person in F1. This "nice guy" angle is taken seriously only by his most hardcore fanboys. The guy is a prick and his behaviour at Turkey and after was the best example of it.
15th July 2010, 01:08
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by wedge

Nothing to do with favouritism. The weight distribution was wrong.

Oh yeah?
And the current iteration has been a VASTLY improved "b" spec!

Looks like they are confused - well not Brittney.

It may not have been favoritism per se - but given Rosberg's performance, if Schumi had not been unhappy then there would have been no change.
15th July 2010, 01:14
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Indeed. Nico wanted the change just as much because whilst he could drive round the flaws better than old man time, he wanted a faster car. Period. He's still getting the better of him now and all credit to him.

Brittany went along with it - he had no other option anyway.

The deciding factor was Schumi because he prefers a longer wheelbase car which allows the car to become extremely "pointy" to the degree that historically other drivers would term it uncontrollable.

"Old man time"? You mean like the incompetent performances of Fisichella which led the biggest Italian sporting newspaper to lead with a criticism of him that made him blubber like a little girl?

Schumi has nothing to be embarassed about - its early days yet.
15th July 2010, 01:21
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Vettel never was nice. He is in fact the fakest person in F1. This "nice guy" angle is taken seriously only by his most hardcore fanboys. The guy is a prick and his behaviour at Turkey and after was the best example of it.

It depends how one defines "nice guy". If it is as an "after you Claude" then of course he is not.

Every single driver has to be single minded and wants the "unfair advantage" as the late Mark Donahue phrased it.

It takes time for teammates to finalize a relationship and that is why the team management is so vital. Prost-Lauda managed it themselves / Prost-Senna could not and Dennis totally did what Horner looks to be doing.

Its like any elite unit that acts on the edges, whether in the military or in sports. Relationships and good command - without that it will never work no matter how well or highly trained.
15th July 2010, 01:22
Mekola

I will respect if he agreeds to give Webber a chance to champ. Mark is veteran while Sebastian could grab the title in further seasons.
15th July 2010, 01:58
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by Mekola

I will respect if he agreeds to give Webber a chance to champ. Mark is veteran while Sebastian could grab the title in further seasons.

That is a nice thought - problem is in motor racing a driver can go years without a competitive car as happened to Jenson.

So, a driver has to try and make full use of all opportunities.
15th July 2010, 10:12
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by henners88

I'm in the minority on the Vettel good/bad guy debate as I think drivers should speak their minds once in a while. The same people who are condemning Webber for speaking out, are denying Vettel has done the same in a whirlwind of hypocrisy. We've had a few seasons now where people who have over analysed Lewis Hamilton's post race interviews to sculpt a stance that he's blaming his team or teammate, and yet of late we've had a handful of drivers who have been justifiably openly emotional and have escaped the same criticism.

Is Vettel a nice guy? None of us know because nobody other than those close have the experience of his true character. Is Vettel a highly competitive, and sometimes emotional racing driver who is selfish in his own ability in the desire to win? Yes, just like all the top drivers, but with each driver there comes a different type of fan, and we're always going to have debates like this as long as a person ignores the traits in all the other drivers who participate in this great sport.. :)

I think his looney gestures after the incident in Turkey when he deliberately steered his car at Webber speaks volumes for Vettel, more than anything he may have said. Basically, he is a treacherous duplicitous team mate, and I certainly would not like to have a colleague like that in my workplace.
15th July 2010, 14:18
wedge

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Brittany went along with it - he had no other option anyway.

The deciding factor was Schumi because he prefers a longer wheelbase car which allows the car to become extremely "pointy" to the degree that historically other drivers would term it uncontrollable.

The weight distribution was wrong because MGP miscalculated the fuel tank variable.

Longer wheelbase does not necessarily make a car pointy. What MGP have done was to alter the front suspension geometry to allow more weight at the front, which in turn altered the wheelbase.

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