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Lost interest? As in "he could still have driven in a top team but didnt want to anymore"?Quote:
Originally Posted by raphael123
LOL. He´s clearly at home in Nascar, but his bold (read stupid) moves would never pay off in F1. And if its still unclear: he was kicked out by a faster teammate. He never recovered mentally for being slower, which he certainly wasnt used to earlier in his career.
explain kicked out? he was not offered any top seats? does that translate to kicked out of F1. As far as I remember he announce after the USGP that he was off to NASCAR. Has it ever occurred to you that he didn't want to turn out to be another DC and instead decided to go for a new challenge and be close to his family in America.
This has been talked about too much in this forum, so I wont go in there. I only reacted to the idea of JPM "losing his interest". If he had been offered a top drive, Im sure there would have been very much interest. But the top teams rated him and obviously not high enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by rlenis
That is correct. He said he would have stayed if he was offered a Renault of Ferrari seat but he didn't so he lost interest in running in a team fighting for 4th and 5th place. He lost interest being in the situation he was in so he decided to try something else.
Why are you saying BS that he was kicked out of F1 when you know he was the one who made the call first to quit instead of running for a mid-pack team?
Who would have want him? Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by rlenis
JPM recognised he was unlikely to get into a position where he could win a WDC, and there are probably few who would argue with that. They'll have different reasons (most of which have been discussed and argued over here at some point :p ) why, but most importantly JPM recognised the reality and did something about it.
He's won races pretty much everywhere he's gone, and proved himself in Europe and America. He's now proving himself once again, this time in NASCAR. That takes talent and ability.
The only thing it really takes are bumpers.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Just kidding! :p :
Well, I didnt mean kicked out as in "being sacked". I meant the very same way you seem to think. He didnt proove to be quick enough and obviously wasnt interested in any other drives on the grid, so in that sense he was kicked out. I totally understand his reaction, he is not the kind of guy who would settle for a 2nd class career. He chose to leave and not stick around.Quote:
Originally Posted by rlenis
In a way thats more admirable. But it doesnt change the fact that JPM must feel his F1 career being a disappointment. At the end at least.
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Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
I don't think so, perhaps if his teammates had collected WDC in the process, maybe. But they didn't. The only thing he proved was that he was not as quick as Kimi, that is all. But then again are there many drivers out there who are?
got this from another forum member (fetzervalve) and now that we are mentioning Juan in this thread, here is some info that I was even not privy of:
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Here are the deets: (looks like 11 Championships and a few other gems in the crown)
1981-1984: Karting Colombian National Champion
1985: National Junior Kart Championship: 2nd
1986-1987: Komet Category: National Champion
1988: Komet Category: 2nd in National Championship
1989: Komet Category: champion
1990: Kart Junior World Championship
1991: Kart Junior World Championship
1992: Colombian Formula Renault: 8 races, 4 wins, 5 poles
1993: GTI National Championship Tournament: 8 races, 7 wins, 7 poles
1994: Sudan 125 karting: champion
Barber Saab series: 3rd, 2 wins, 2 poles
Mexican 'N' series: 5 races, 3 wins, 4 poles
1995: Formula Vauxhall, England: 3rd (Paul Stewart Racing)
Bogotá Six Hours: class winner
1996: F3, England: 5th, 2 wins, 1 pole (Fortec)
Marlboro Masters: 4th
Macau GP: ret
ITC: 16th, 1 race (Mercedes-Benz)
Bogotá Six Hours: winner
1997: F3000: 2nd, 37.5 points, 3 wins (RSM Marko)
1998: F3000: 1st, 65 points, 4 wins, 2 poles (Super Nova)
1999: CART: 1st & rookie of the year, 212 points, 7 wins, 7 poles (Ganassi)
2000: CART: 9th, 126 points, 3 wins, 7 poles (Ganassi)
IRL: raced and won the Indy 500 (Ganassi)
2001: Formula 1: 6th, 31 points, 1 win, 3 poles (Williams)
2002: Formula 1: 3rd, 50 points, 0 wins, 7 poles (Williams)
2003: Formula 1: 3rd, 82 points, 2 wins, 1 pole (Williams)
2004: Formula 1: 5th, 58 points, 1 win, 0 poles (Williams)
2005: Formula 1: 4th, 60 points, 3 wins, 2 poles (McLaren)
2006: Formula 1: 8th, 26 points, 0 wins, 0 poles (McLaren)
2007: Rolex 24 at Daytona Daytona Prototype class winner and overall winner
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and the list will continue . . . . . :s mokin: