The Americans should take over the spill and thank MW for the effort and titles.
Ford and their drivers deserve better than this lame no future daddy-slowson-cash and drive team.
Time is up. :up:
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The Americans should take over the spill and thank MW for the effort and titles.
Ford and their drivers deserve better than this lame no future daddy-slowson-cash and drive team.
Time is up. :up:
The biggest joke is your constant whinging about all things French! Cars, drivers and tyresQuote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
Oh come on Daniel it's the only reason Loeb wins all these events...special michelin tyre, special diffs, special Xsara.
Sadly our scandinavian friends can't accept he's simply better - more skill, better co-driver, better pace notes.
I agree with you and I think Ford would have already done that if they could have but they can't. It would cost too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
The little worldwide publicity that M-Sport makes for them is there. No question, and they get it at very low price.
People would be surprised at how small is the FORD sponsoring for M-Sport. It is so low, in fact, that the FORD EUROPE execs have absolutely no say whatsoever in driver choice.
Normally FORD should be able to say to M-Sport : "hey in a couple years we want an english an a german driver in the car because that is where we sell cars so, Malcolm, please start taking care of that now..."
Instead the money has gone into putting two Finns!
One Finn would be ok if he is good and has charisma like Bosse, but why those two who are nowhere close to the star Bosse is ?
Look at Citroen, they develop and support young drivers who come from countries where they have important markets like france and Spain. Logical.
M-sport officially "develops and supports" young drivers who come from.....Finland which has a population half of Belgium. Why don't they develop a talented brit ? Some people know the answer to that.
The unofficial reason is that a manager, has been pumping millions of Euros into M Wilson's pocket to "secure and develop" these drivers who came from nothing straight in a top car in 2003. Now, 7 years later these two guys are still struggling to stay on the road while Ogier is already better after touching a WRC car for first time in end of 2008.
In marketting language, how can a car maker like FORD be content with such a driver lineup ? I would have demanded P SOLBERG immediately !!
Bottom line is M Wilson runs the ship, not FORD.
I can accept he's simply better. After six titles what else could I say. But is he the best rally driver ever, that is something not measured in titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Reading this thread and others like this, Ford however seems to motivate people more. There are a lot of bashing but also hope and demand that Ford would up their game. Why isn't there any Citroen glorification threads? Okey - they can do it themselves. Or is this because rally fans in general likes underdogs (resemblance to their own lives perhaps...) and an odd win here and there is enough, or do we hope Ford to step up only to make the series more interesting.
Perhaps this forum doesn't portrait rally fans properly at all, we are the loud minority, and the way the audience behaves at the actual events keeps the teams happy. Why don't we make t-shirts or flags with familiar slogans from the forum like "Ford - what a joke!", "Hirvonen -wake the f*** up!", "So much for a 5-year plan, Malcolm!" and show up at the service area and see what they think. Instead of buying their merchandise.
One more thing about Loeb that bothers me right now. He's been to WRC for years, but I still don't know much of who he is. If someone could point me to in-depth interviews (English), I'd appreciate. All I've got to know from him is from his English interviews, and in spelling contests he doesn't take titles. Is there any profile dvd's made from him yet - French, but with English subtitles?
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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
He isn't Scandinavian, fortunately, and it's easy to tell.
Scandinavian and Baltic members of this forum are million times marter than him and come with constructive posts, unlike him.
Fact is he's flemish from Belgium. Draw your own conclusions...
I just ignore him and skip his silly messages.
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Originally Posted by Kaffi
Fully agree what you wrote. I hope MW feels the pressure and make a step forward in driver line up and hopefully not think that Fiesta will solve all the problems netx year. First step good - PG in Focus but don't know if it is between Henning and PG or something done by MW also in this story.
Clearly the Stobart manufacturer team running the second string Focus are not going to be any help to the main Ford team in preventing Citroen and Citroen Junior taking 1st and 2nd in the manufacturers championship. Better then that Henning gets used to Fiesta handling and someone worth developing gets some top of the field experience. However, young MW better look out if it happens as this will throw a spotlight on the level of his development :cool: Of course, this assumes that a farsighted strategist can recover some use from a season that is rapidly going down the crapperQuote:
Originally Posted by amilk
I can see the advantages for Ford - don't put a lot of cash in, but if successful you reap the benefits. Big smiles all around, especially from the top brass. However, if they don't win, they haven't invested huge sums, so it's not a disaster.
Maybe if the were 'properly' funded by Ford, they may be able to have drivers who don't pay- and I include Stobart in this.
I think MW reads this forum. We have for sometime mentioned PG as the complement Ford urgently need.
“It’ll be interesting to see what he makes of it,” said Wilson. “I think a few people have been watching him for a while. We’ve certainly always been aware of him.”
MW will put some pressure on PG to see what he can do on tarmac. Exciting.
And I am swede and think Loeb is one of the best WRC drivers. But there have been many more of his class during the years. Apart from that he has had a good team behind him and wouldn´t have won in an SX4 for example...