Lars Vilks gets the muslim free speech treatment

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

The "palestinians" never owned the land and have ALWAYS been subservient to what ever people controlled it, they have the right to nothing.

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Sura 5:20-21
Recall that Moses said to his people (the Jews), “O my people, remember GOD’s blessings upon you: He appointed prophets from among you, made you kings, and granted you what He never granted any other people.
“O my people, enter the holy land (Israel) that GOD has decreed for you, and do not rebel, lest you become losers.”

The Qu'ran of all things states that the land belongs to the Jews. I wonder if Eki is claiming that the Palestinians are "above" the teachings of their own scripture.

Depending on which way you look at it, there were between five or six Aliyahs (return migrations) of Jews between 1882 and 1948, quite apart from Balfour, or the UN declaration.

The other point Eki keeps missing is the Jews will live with Arabs quite happily as long as the Arab's agree that the Jews have a right to be there and have Isreal. The Arabs haven't agreed except for Egypt, and now Jordan, who both are tired of losing wars and territory to the Israeli's. Sometimes peace DOES come from the barrel of a gun....

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Originally Posted by Rollo

The Qu'ran of all things states that the land belongs to the Jews. I wonder if Eki is claiming that the Palestinians are "above" the teachings of their own scripture.

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I don't care about scriptures, be they Quran, Bible and whatever the Jews are reading. This is year 2010, those scriptures were written a long time ago. Maybe it's time to update them.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

The other point Eki keeps missing is the Jews will live with Arabs quite happily as long as the Arab's agree that the Jews have a right to be there and have Isreal.

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That's easy to say. It's like squatters telling the homeowner "Hey, what's the problem? We are happy to live here with you, as long as you agree that we have the right to be here, put our name on the mailbox, paint our graffiti on the walls and have a wild BBQ party in your living room".

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

So it seems you pick and choose which "invading" armies are ok, and which are not by your personal rhetoric.
Hypocrisy.

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Isn't that what you do? You seem to think that the US invasions to Iraq and Afghanistan are OK, do you also think all invasions are OK, be they Hitler invading Poland, Stalin invading Estonia or Saddam invading Kuwait?

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Originally Posted by Easy Drifter

Israelis make the laws in their country same as US citizens make the laws in their Country, or Cdns. do in Canada. Same as in Finland I believe.

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If illegal immigrants made the laws, they wouldn't be illegal for long.

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Originally Posted by Eki

That's easy to say. It's like squatters telling the homeowner "Hey, what's the problem? We are happy to live here with you, as long as you agree that we have the right to be here,

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NO, it's like someone who had been expelled from his home due to political reasons would come back and find that someone else is living there and was willing to compromise with him in order to coexist.

Concerning the other part

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put our name on the mailbox, paint our graffiti on the walls and have a wild BBQ party in your living room".

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I'd say it's more like moving the stones, sand and camels aside in order to renovate the place and make it to a modern democratic country with a functioning economy.

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Originally Posted by Eki

I don't care about scriptures, be they Quran, Bible and whatever the Jews are reading. This is year 2010, those scriptures were written a long time ago. Maybe it's time to update them.

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It is obvious you do not care about history as you are making up your own anyway.

True about illegal immigrants Eki.
However, Citizens of a Country are not illegal immigrants.
As long as you refuse to admit that Israel is a legal Country you will keep up your totally illogical comments in the face of the facts.
You have also totally hijacked this discussion into areas that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual original topic just to advance your agenda of anti semitism.
As you so aptly pointed out it is 2010 so maybe it is time you accepted the fact that Israel exists as a Country.

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Originally Posted by Rani

NO, it's like someone who had been expelled from his home due to political reasons would come back and find that someone else is living there and was willing to compromise with him in order to coexist.

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I'd say it's more like moving the stones, sand and camels aside in order to renovate the place and make it to a modern democratic country with a functioning economy.

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That's your way of looking at it. I'm not sure if the Palestinians agree. Maybe they'd prefer living in a backwards undemocratic country with a dysfunctional economy that they run by themselves and call whatever they like it to be called.

Besides, their idea of democracy might be different from yours. At least I don't consider Israel very democratic. Yes, there is a majority rule, but the means to achieve majority position were dubious and minorities are not treated well.