Discontent at Ferrari?

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Originally Posted by tamburello

What a surprise, another idiotic statement.

When you have knowledge, go near a keyboard. Until then, go back to school.

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You didn't like the alliteration then?

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Originally Posted by veeten

Of course, one has to remember who Moss was partnered with, at both Maserati & Mercedes-Benz, none other than Juan Manuel Fangio. Fangio was a Hamilton or Alonso or even Schumacher-type of driver, which made him a multiple World Champion.

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The whole theme of the thread was Moss referrerence to type of driver.
I am not convinced that Lewis deserves to be placed alongside Fangio.

There are also multiple champions who were different.

I kind of thought that there is an underlying tension in EVERY team between drivers? Do you not think that Hamilton wouldn't have passed Button or Webber wouldn't have passed Vettel in the same situation?

If an F1 driver is not driven to win, he's in the wrong sport! Nobody had a greater drive to win than Schumacher (in his prime years) and he was dominant. Did he win everything in a politically correct way - No! Did he win 7 championships - Yes! I see a lot of that same drive in Alonso.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

No, there is tension and there is a lot of it. Ferrari can issue 100 statements and it will not change the reality.

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I have to agree, Fred cannot help himself.....

Of course, with all eyes on Ferrari and Fred now, he's damned if he tries to assert his position further, and he's damned if he doesn't.

Poor little lamb....... ;)

I'd be worried if there wasn't tension. Both drivers want to win races and championships, and both believe with some justification that they can do so. They'll both want the best treatment, the newest parts, the optimum strategy, the most experienced crew. It has the potential to make for a fascinating battle on and off track.

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Originally Posted by wmcot

I kind of thought that there is an underlying tension in EVERY team between drivers? Do you not think that Hamilton wouldn't have passed Button or Webber wouldn't have passed Vettel in the same situation?

If an F1 driver is not driven to win, he's in the wrong sport! Nobody had a greater drive to win than Schumacher (in his prime years) and he was dominant. Did he win everything in a politically correct way - No! Did he win 7 championships - Yes! I see a lot of that same drive in Alonso.

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Indeed, but there is a significance difference between those seeking to win at any cost, being sacirificial, versus those who do it based on virtue.

Schumacher at times overrstepped the bounds of sporting behavior at critical moments, possibly not premeditated.

He did subsequently express regret at those actions and was ultimately deservedly penalized.

I can't believe it. I thought they were best buddies. Oh, so young and naive... the disappointment.... and the shock...too hard to bare

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Originally Posted by eu

I can't believe it. I thought they were best buddies. Oh, so young and naive... the disappointment.... and the shock...too hard to bare

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It's like a red rag to a Bull for Fred - 'scuse the Spanish orientated pun.

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Originally Posted by pino

Nope but today Luca told Sky Italy, that his dream would be to see Valentino on the 3rd Ferrari.

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What, Montezuma is still dreaming of the third car? :D

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

It's like a red rag to a Bull for Fred - 'scuse the Spanish orientated pun.

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I don´t mind but the Spaniards should forgive you for it not me. Who´s the rag? Massa? :laugh: