Zee Germans could join zee auzzies??

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Originally Posted by AJP

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ar_roadcar.jpg

Here is a comparison of the road going version and the race car...

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The road VE Commodore is too long and too wide for the regulations. So in order to pass homogation, special chassis have to built. Two strips are cut out of the car down the long axis; either side of the transmission tunnel, and a space between the B-Pillar and the C-Pillar is cut out, and then the roof is reprofiled.
The V8 Supercar Commodore, is shorter, narrower, and lower in height than the road going VE Commodore.

You can actually see the distortions, particularly behind the B-Pillar between the two cars.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

The road VE Commodore is too long and too wide for the regulations. So in order to pass homogation, special chassis have to built. Two strips are cut out of the car down the long axis; either side of the transmission tunnel, and a space between the B-Pillar and the C-Pillar is cut out, and then the roof is reprofiled.
The V8 Supercar Commodore, is shorter, narrower, and lower in height than the road going VE Commodore.

You can actually see the distortions, particularly behind the B-Pillar between the two cars.

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Knowing this, you can still clearly see that it is a holden commodore..

The differences between body work and chasis modifications of the DTM cars and V8 supercars is quite different.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Oh ffs are people being needlessly pedantic or what?!?!?!

Lets just agree that a GT1 car is like a GT1 car
A supertourer is like a supertourer
And that a DTM car is like a DTM car
And that an LMP isn't an LMP because it doesn't fit into the dictionary definition :rolleyes:

None of them share any similarities at all. I shall get out a dictionary and find some stupidly pedantic way of saying that the wheels on a DTM car are a different kind of round to the ones on a GT1 car.

Sorry I ever even posted in this nonsensical thread in the first place!

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I think the point being made is that DTM cars aren't touring cars.... but then again neither are the V8Supercars really anymore.

More 'silouette' regs than anything

The January 2010 edition of Top Gear magazine (UK) has a six or seven page spread on the Audi A4 DTM.

It's reproduced here and makes for an interesting read:
http://www.quattroworld.com/audi-mot...0-audi-a4-dtm/
Despite the presence of four doors and what looks like a boot, this is pretty much a single-seater in drag.
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In other words, this is a sophisticated racing car, arguably a lot closer to endurance prototypes than straight touring cars.

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Originally Posted by AJP

The differences between body work and chasis modifications of the DTM cars and V8 supercars is quite different.

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The main difference being that to get a V8 Supercar you start off with a Commodore; and to get a DTM Audi A4, you don't start off with an A4 but a spaceframe.

So it's like a prototype which isn't a prototype according to you?

No its like a V8 Supercar, stop trying to turn Motorsport into similies...

Oh god, who cares what it is, let's just look forward to the announcement that's coming soon.

http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2010...ar-round-18730
"Mercedes-Benz has emphatically denied any interest in entering V8 Supercars when the category is thrown open to more manufacturers in 2012. Following a frenzy of speculation last week, the German giant's global motorsport boss ruled out a factory-backed V8 team under the Car of the Future rules"

Mercedes-Benz Motorsport spokesman Wolfgang Schattling added: 'We definitely will not be doing that.' "

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/mot...501564138.html
Speculation of the week is that Mercedes-Benz is to enter V8 Supercars and what has been exclusively a narrow tribal conflict between Holden and Ford.

[bIt won't happen.[/b]

Fellow prestige maker BMW has flatly denied that it is interested.

There it is. MB & BMW aren't and won't build a V8 Supercar. The question remains now, who sparked the rumours in the first place? And the answer to that can be found in the original article posted in this thread from the Sydney Morning Herald:
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/g...0309-pvdm.html
The chairman of V8 Supercars, Tony Cochrane, confirmed the expansion talks this week.
"Some of the teams are already talking to potential new manufacturers," he said.

Mr Cochrane by any chance?

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Originally Posted by Rollo

http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2010...ar-round-18730
"Mercedes-Benz has emphatically denied any interest in entering V8 Supercars when the category is thrown open to more manufacturers in 2012. Following a frenzy of speculation last week, the German giant's global motorsport boss ruled out a factory-backed V8 team under the Car of the Future rules"

Mercedes-Benz Motorsport spokesman Wolfgang Schattling added: 'We definitely will not be doing that.' "

http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/mot...501564138.html
Speculation of the week is that Mercedes-Benz is to enter V8 Supercars and what has been exclusively a narrow tribal conflict between Holden and Ford.

[bIt won't happen.[/b]

Fellow prestige maker BMW has flatly denied that it is interested.

There it is. MB & BMW aren't and won't build a V8 Supercar. The question remains now, who sparked the rumours in the first place? And the answer to that can be found in the original article posted in this thread from the Sydney Morning Herald:
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/g...0309-pvdm.html
The chairman of V8 Supercars, Tony Cochrane, confirmed the expansion talks this week.
"Some of the teams are already talking to potential new manufacturers," he said.

Mr Cochrane by any chance?

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That Coch better ran. Oh that made no sense. But he bloody should. :D

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/460...#comment_37927
FORD AUSTRALIA HAS announced today that it will discontinue the Falcon wagon this year, with the last wagon to roll off the line in June.

The news follows reports last year that Ford was considering the wagon's future, Ford Australia CEO Marin Burela confirming that a decision would be made by this past January.

How long do you give it before the Falcon is axed entirely? What the hell does V8 Supercars do then with only one make of car to choose from and no other willing participants at this stage?

The Falcon itself has been flagging in sales, having fallen from top spot to number 7 in the latest VFACTS survey. Ford already previously announced that there probably wouldn't be a replacement for it at the end of the model cycle.

What then?