Briatore's ban overturned in French court

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

And your are in the Industry????

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I believe he had once an internship at Arrows F1, probably making sandwiches for the mechanics! ;)

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Originally Posted by henners88

Industrial espionage is not uncommon, although obviously its rarely talked about. I have witnessed this first hand btw.

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What secrets have you sold? Mayonnaise first and then ketchup?

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Originally Posted by henners88

If you honestly believe that Mclaren were the first team in the history of the sport to use data/drawings/plans etc, then I feel you are welcome to this stance. I happen to believe that in the long history of the sport where winning is everything, the chances of teams previously never using stolen data is very slim. Toyota, Benetton, Ferrari and Mclaren have all been accused in the past of industrial cheating. What I object to is you declaring your opinion as fact, and telling everyone else they are pathetic.

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You are missing the part where Ron Dennis denied everything for months and called everyone else liars, pretty much unprecedented hypocrisy and misbehavior in F1.

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Originally Posted by henners88

If you honestly believe that Mclaren were the first team in the history of the sport to use data/drawings/plans etc, then I feel you are welcome to this stance. I happen to believe that in the long history of the sport where winning is everything, the chances of teams previously never using stolen data is very slim.

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There are plenty of instances of data passing to another team when employees leave.

Happens in every industry.

In F1, there has never been before an instance of a live-feed of info direct to a rival.

If you cannot see the the difference, then you're in denial.

Q: what happened where force india(spyker) stole the blueprints of the toro rosso to prove that it was a redbull car ?

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

Q: what happened where force india(spyker) stole the blueprints of the toro rosso to prove that it was a redbull car ?

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It happened that they didn't try to hide the fact that they had the document and they also didn't try to integrate STR designs in their own car.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Rubbish. McLaren's failure to acknowledge that they were caught is what is the worse they did. They are a bunch of effin' cheaters and liars.

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On the other hand Ferrari were given a legal cheating hand with the secret FIA sanctioned technical veto.

The issue here is not about cheating - it has always been about personal vendetta's by Max against certain individuals.

Briatore is no worse than Schumacher or Senna were for deliberately crashing into people.

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Originally Posted by ioan

You are missing the part where Ron Dennis denied everything for months and called everyone else liars, pretty much unprecedented hypocrisy and misbehavior in F1.

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Don't make me laugh - heard of Enzo Ferrari amongst others?

F1 is and always has been a tough business. Reaching for or engineering the "unfair advantage" has and always will go on.

The Briatore issue was vendetta not justice.

The French court was correct to rule as it did - now for Briatore and the Piquets time to fight in court!!

Guys I am going to ask this only once:

Stop posting personal comments/attacks and keep it on topic ! And to those who wants to continue their childish fights, do it via PM.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

you're in denial.

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Or deThames, if you live in London.......

[quote="pino"]Guys I am going to ask this only once:
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Ooohhhh, Rene!!!