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i think it would be better for a team to stay in the sport until they sell the team if you go by what they did to honda and class brawn gp as a new entrant
will this move sauber f1 up to the 13th team and put what ever team that buys toyota team as 14th ( who would by the team after what they did with bmw knowing that there may not be a spot on the grid for them)
Here's hoping someone would actually buy them....Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbolt
Ghosn got to the head of Renault specifically by cutting costs, shutting down entire factories. He did the same at Nissan. The French punished him by making him CEO.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Renault might still need a serious bailout from the French government, their sales are ok at the mo because of all the trade in subsidies in the EU, when those stop their sales may fall again. It would not look good to be seen wasting money on F1 whilst receiving government handouts. Add to that Piquetgate and Renault is under intense pressure to drop F1, especially as all the redundancies can be made where its easier to sack people, the UK.
I presume if Toyota finds a buyer then as they have already signed up to the Concorde agreement they'd still stay 13th and BMW would still find itself shut out.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderbolt
My guess is that Renault will broker a deal (get out clause from the Concorde agreement) by staying as a high profile engine builder, supplying a few teams, maybe Meccachrome badges on second tier teams, and that Prodrive pick up the race team using Renault engines.
I bet none of the Nissan workers were French and they were probably not working in France either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
So they will probably need to sack people somewhere else than in France.
Renault is French ioan. He sacked Renault staff. Many of them were French, living in France and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Ghosn is a Renault man, why do you think he's called Le Costcutter and not Costcutter-san?
In fact, Goshn is closing (or trying to close) 3 factories in France, and that is a lot of jobs. What it is even more puzzling, heīs doing it in France while he tries to open factories in other countries, and what I find most strange is that he closes factories in France, but maintains the one we have here in Valladolid when he has repeated again and again that Renault is not interested on having it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
What is going on then? Easy. Here in Spain politicians have the strange hobby of cracking under the pressure of big enterprises, and if they start saying they want to leave, in no time there will appear some politician giving them an absurd amount of money to "convince" them. And thatīs how Renault is staying here, because the local government bribes, sorry, carries hard negotiations with Renault. In France they donīt seem to be doing the same, and Renault should have some consideration with their facilities in their home country...
But in the end... whatīs more important? Mr. Goshn has no doubt: Profit, profit and profit. If he has to sack some thousand people in France just to move some factories to a cheaper place or maintain them just because that means free cash heīll promptly do it and there will be not few people who thint that is the correct decission.
Conclussion: Mr Goshn will do whatever he thinks more convenient, no matter what people could think, because these freshly-unemployed rabble are quite troublesome (he must think, or something like that).
Here in Spain we call him Recortator (Cut-ator or something like that, kind of play on words), and he cares nothing about anything except profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
Eastern Europe is the future of car production for the non BMW's, Mercedes and Audi's.Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Pu
The Fiat's coming out of the Tychy plant in Poland are well built and cheap labour means more profits.