When we disagree

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Given that a perfectly legitimate, non-hostile, non-argumentative thread by Bezza ('The Banning of Six Members') has been closed for no good reason...

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I get the feeling Pino is trying to make a point... :mark:

bugger did I miss something again ? :( :p :

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Originally Posted by schmenke

I get the feeling Pino is trying to make a point... :mark:

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If that's the case, all it will do is cause more people to question the quality of the moderation — as it is already doing.

I love the irony of Daniel's earlier posts.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

bugger did I miss something again ? :( :p :

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Me too :(
It seems pino had to spend a lot of time cleaning up some stuff and from his post, he banned them while he cleaned up their mess.

Sorry, Bezza!! but I fully support pino, and I know how this forum will degenerate into an awful mess if he just decided to go on holidays instead. I've been around here for a long, long time, and I like this forum the way it is. That's why I started this thread.

I only posted in the closed thread a couple of times and tried to be neutral.
It did, in my opinion, get out of hand at times.
I do feel that some posters were out of line.
I also think that at least one poster not banned should have been.
I also feel that at least one poster banned should not have been.
However the thread was out of control!
Something had to be done and Pino did it.
He and I do not always agree but he has a, do I dare say it, god awful job to do.
None of us are perfect and Pino does, in my opinion a great job. He does more than just try and keep us under control in F1. He has other responsibilities on this forum.
Does he need help? Probably. The man has another life outside of here.
Am I volunteering? NO. I also get carried away at times and that is not good.
If any one on here thinks they can come close to doing the job Pino does, volunteer.
Hang tough Pino. You have my support for whatever it is worth.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Given that a perfectly legitimate, non-hostile, non-argumentative thread by Bezza ('The Banning of Six Members') has been closed for no good reason, I have to voice my objections to the mods' actions in here. I agree totally with Bezza's views about it being ludicrous for the four people he mentions to have been banned, and think they should be reinstated as soon as possible.

Forums such as these will always provoke strong discussions. Thus, they need to be properly moderated. I don't feel that seemingly arbitrary bans of large groups of members are an example of that. Quite the reverse. Now, I fully expect that when those four people Bezza mentioned are reinstated, so too will the other two, thus demonstrating in at least one case that the moderators don't quite understand where the crux of the problem lay. Sorry, but that's how I feel and I hope nobody minds me saying so.

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Now Mr BDunnel, is there anything wich I do that you like ? because if I don't take action you complain, and when I take action you complain as well. Oh I see...you want to decide whom to ban and whom not to ban. Well keep dreaming my friend, because I run F1 Forum not you.

As for Bezza's thread I don't have to explain my actions in here to none except for Mark (our Admin and owner of this board) not to mention that, what I did don't need an explaination considering (once again) the sticky thread about rules on top page, plus the 2 warnings/requests I was forced to post on that now closed thread after I had wasted almost 1 hour of my precious life to clean that thread.Those members stays banned until I decide to unban them like it or not.

And while here let me tell you that I am sick and tired of your complaints so I give you 2 choices : stay and accept the way I run the forum, or find another forum because I will not take any more critics/complaints from you !

I hope I've made myself clear in spite of my poor english...

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Originally Posted by pino

Now Mr BDunnel, is there anything wich I do that you like ? because if I don't take action you complain, and when I take action you complain as well. Oh I see...you want to decide whom to ban and whom not to ban. Well keep dreaming my friend, because I run F1 Forum not you.

As for Bezza's thread I don't have to explain my actions in here to none except for Mark (our Admin and owner of this board) not to mention that, what I did don't need an explaination considering (once again) the sticky thread about rules on top page, plus the 2 warnings/requests I was forced to post on that now closed thread after I had wasted almost 1 hour of my precious life to clean that thread.Those members stays banned until I decide to unban them like it or not.

And while here let me tell you that I am sick and tired of your complaints so I give you 2 choices : stay and accept the way I run the forum, or find another forum because I will not take any more critics/complaints from you !

I hope I've made myself clear in spite of my poor english...

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I see, so you are now threatening BDunnell with a ban as well? That is not the way to moderate a forum at all - and your attitude in your first sentences towards him appalls me - we are all adults here and you just sound like your trying to show off your "power" over everybody else, when actually we are trying to raise a serious question.

Your attitude is sickening, "keep dreaming my friend" is not the way to moderate a forum at all and I will be shocked if anybody except yourself disagrees.

No doubt either this post will be deleted or I will be banned as well...!

Everything has gotten a wee bit out of control recently, and things need to be reigned back in.

The thread in the F1 forum was meant to be to contratulate Brawn and Button on their championship sucess, it should not have degenerated into a slanging match.

Pino warned the members concerned on several occasions to cool down, however these seemed to go unheeded so definitive action needed to be taken.

I've talked with Pino about it and the decision is that the bans in question will be in place until after the race at Abu Dhabi, a Grand Prix ban in accordance to the rules pino has had in place for a long while now.

Believe me, banning members is not something that we can take lightly, but when things get out of control a time out is needed to cool things down, and I thank pino for taking this action, it was not an easy decision and not one which is done on a whim and he knows that he'll not win many friends for it, but it was the best thing for the forum in the long run.

PS. Caroline has requested Daniel be banned for life. I'm taking it into consideration :idea: