Renault get a 2 year suspended ban

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Originally Posted by henners88

I can't help but think that if this was a small team like Force India involved in all this, the punishment would have been alot more harsh. It would have been a ban for sure, but with the threat of losing a major car manufacturer and the supply of engines to other teams, the FIA have chosen the lighter option. Not exactly living up to the hype and threats Mr Mosley put out to the press in recent days. Flavio took the brunt of the flack, but at his age and with his wealth, I'm sure he's got enough out of F1 not to worry too much.

It feels like abit of an anti climax to be honest... :(

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I bet if they banned Renault from F1 you would be equally unhappy. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by henners88

I seem to remember you having quite a different view when that someone was Mike Coughlan ;)

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How many people were involved in that case and how many in this one?
How did Renault react? and how did McLaren react?

Just a couple questions for you! ;)

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Originally Posted by harsha

where is the consistency in decision making...Mclaren got a hefty fine with they spygate conspiracy and Renault get let off with a rap on the knuckles :?:

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McLaren denied their wrongdoings for half a year and accused evreyone else but themselves.
Renault did their internal investigation, got rid of the scumbags and pleaded guilty.

Just a couple of the details that escaped to your thorough analysis! ;)

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Originally Posted by ioan

How many people were involved in that case and how many in this one?
How did Renault react? and how did McLaren react?

Just a couple questions for you! ;)

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How they reacted has nothing at all to do with it. Nor, in reality - nor indeed law - does the number of people involved. The fact that you have made up your mind that one offence is worse than the other does not render that fact.

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Originally Posted by ioan

McLaren denied their wrongdoings for half a year and accused evreyone else but themselves.
Renault did their internal investigation, got rid of the scumbags and pleaded guilty.

Just a couple of the details that escaped to your analysis! ;)

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ioan, the addition of a ;) to posts like that one really doesn't come across well. In fact, it's downright rude.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Given the (non-motorsport) press coverage this has been getting I do think those reading it may wonder why a team found guilty in this way will be racing next weekend.

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For the very same reason a team found guilty of cheating during 2007 went racing the next week end after the WMSC hearing.

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Originally Posted by ioan

For the very same reason a team found guilty of cheating during 2007 went racing the next week end after the WMSC hearing.

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That is a very reasonable point. Again, the actual damage done to F1 has been zero. How many sponsors have actually been put off by either case? And I suspect that most non-enthusiasts think there's a bit of a whiff of corruption, greed, etc around the sport anyway, by its very nature.

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Originally Posted by ioan

How many people were involved in that case and how many in this one?
How did Renault react? and how did McLaren react?

Just a couple questions for you! ;)

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It's a fair point. McLaren did everything to hide what had happened whereas Renno threw Flav an Pat out ASAP when they learnt the truth. You can't help but feel that McLaren could have escaped such a harsh penalty had they just said '**** a couple of rogue employees were up to something but we've got rid of them and yes they did do this and that etc etc'. Renault acted as best as could have been expected after they heard about the allegations whereas McLaren didn't. Renault have a permanent ban hanging over them now, let's not forget that.....

So with tongue firmly in cheek, any team can commit a serious offence, and get a suspended sentence, as the FiA/Bernie are desperate to keep as many Manufacturers/Teams as possible.......


.....something isn't right!!

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Originally Posted by Daniel

It's a fair point. McLaren did everything to hide what had happened whereas Renno threw Flav an Pat out ASAP when they learnt the truth. You can't help but feel that McLaren could have escaped such a harsh penalty had they just said '**** a couple of rogue employees were up to something but we've got rid of them and yes they did do this and that etc etc'. Renault acted as best as could have been expected after they heard about the allegations whereas McLaren didn't. Renault have a permanent ban hanging over them now, let's not forget that.....

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Exactly. The difference in the approach the two teams took is enormous and the result is well deserved.

PS: before I get accused of fanboyism I'd like to point it out that I'm not a fan of either teams.