USA is Toast

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Originally Posted by Eki

Exactly. You're guessing. Apparently your guess is not based on any solid facts and reality.

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Well said :up:

I have many Muslim friends and customers and all are modest, nice people. They are generally tight with money, otherwise they are decent hard working citizens who I get along well with and dont fear. For some reasons, the Western World fears everyhing around them that is not like them. Why :?:

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Look up Bosnia.

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Why :?:

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Originally Posted by GridGirl

I dont for one second condone terrorism in any way shape or form as I pointed out in my original post. As someone who is not from the US I think the attitudes of some of the American forumers toward people of the Muslim faith is to me appauling. Again to back up what Easy Drifter said, the majority of people from the Muslim faith are just regular normal people. Its is only the extremely tiny minority that are terrorists. I fail to see how you can condem milions of people for just something like 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the entire Muslim population.

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If you think only 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the entire Muslim population supported the 9/11 attacks and the continuing terrorist attacks, you are so deluded it is not even funny.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

I agree with you.

Also, Christians have committed far more despicable acts than Muslims throughout history. FACT, yet we dont see them being lambasted the way the Muslims do. WHY :?:

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Because christians have advanced forward, whereas many muslims are still doing those vile things in the name of their religion.

That said, all religions are bullcrap and the world would be a far better place if there were not so many idiots believing in "god"

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Why :?:

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Because in the Bosnian conflict the Christians were "the bad guys". While it might not rise to the levels that some spout off about with Muslims, it does show that most of the Western world will come to the aid of Muslims against "bad" Christians.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Exactly. You're guessing. Apparently your guess is not based on any solid facts and reality.

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Exactly which forms the basis for a huge monetary bet. You take Grid Girls number and I will take mine and whoever is closest to the fact wins.

Ready??????

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Because christians have advanced forward,

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Not everyone.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Because christians have advanced forward, whereas many muslims are still doing those vile things in the name of their religion.

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Gary when you say we are more advanced does that include these Muslims having philosophical
(or call them religious if you want) objections to the west forcing Cell phone technology
to facilitate their adolescent offspring for sexting at their leisure while laying in bed when their parents expect them to be settled in for a night of sleep?

This is a sad thread. Really is. FIrst off, no majority of Muslims wants to do harm to USA or Christianity. That said, no majority of Christians wants to do harm to Muslims in general. That said, there is a sizeable minority in both that do want to stir up hatred. The large difference is tho that in the Muslim world, there is no real free speech or free thought for the most part. It is limited, and corrupt leaders are using Islam to control and co-erce hatred that suits their purposes. IT is why you see suicide bombers who are 16 year old kids dying for Islam while the "leaders" sit with Swiss bank accounts taking western guilt money. ( Hello Mrs. Arafat, your husband has a lot of money here) .

The west is not guilt free, but we based our democracies on freedom of assembly, and freedom of speech. As per usual Fousto, you overeact but I suspect you do this just to wind people up.

Let them meet, the same way the Nazi's in Skokie Ill. met and faded away. I am sure the FBI has people inside keeping tabs on things.

You stomp out free speech, you might as well dictate how we think.

I would rather argue with Eki or Fousto than have someone take them or I out and muzzle us. Fortunately, I get that, I don't know if Eki or Fousto quite get that.....

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Originally Posted by Eki

Not everyone.

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A LARGE Majority Eki and you know have gotten past it. We live in mainly secular societies with freedom of Religion. The Muslim world is far more restrictive on freedom of speech and thought. The whole point of this thread is Fousto is advocating we do what they do over there. Most Christians are smarter than that...although you fail as usual to want to acknowledge that.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

If you think only 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the entire Muslim population supported the 9/11 attacks and the continuing terrorist attacks, you are so deluded it is not even funny.



Because christians have advanced forward, whereas many muslims are still doing those vile things in the name of their religion.

That said, all religions are bullcrap and the world would be a far better place if there were not so many idiots believing in "god"

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Walker...there is no problem with people having faith in the concept of God. Being kept to a higher standard isn't a bad thing. Hitler believed in his own religion, mainly Nazism ( he was a Catholic by birth, not by anything he did)and we don't have to point out the millions that the godless communists killed in Russia and China. Mao and Stalin didn't believe in God either.

The only way religion is dangerous is when people believe that putting down or oppressing or eliminating another group in the NAME of God. Muslim terrorists blowing up Jews. Christian radicials in the former Yugoslavia killing Bosnian Muslims.

No...being accountable for your sins in this life by the prospect of heaven or hell is what has kept a lot of people out of decending into barbarism.....