Tony George resigned

I am guilty of being one of those who wanted the IRL to fail and ChampCar to survive. Everything about the IRL irritated me from Arute to George to the hypocrisy of the "vision" to the jumping ship of Ganassi and Penske and the late bolt of Fernandez a couple of days before the season opener.

I feel sad for the Dale Coyne's and the Conquest and HVM teams of the CC era. The LuczoDragons and Sarah Fisher's of the IRL. Passionate about racing and doing their utmost to get a car on-track. They always seem to manage a sponsor or two and that is nice to see the sidepods full. Alas, it is never enough money to keep the car on-track for the year as is evidenced when they go to Indy and become associate sponsors, IE, Dad's Root Beer.

I can't see the series staying alive past this year. It is not a desire of mine for it to fail. I was hoping that a new car and engine would be the catalyst to generate much needed publicity. I can't see that occurring now. I have a fear the season not even end.

Time for KK, Penske and Ganassi to get together and reform CC. Buy the cars back from this Green racing (sic) and start from scratch. (wishful thinking).

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Originally Posted by maximilian

I always felt that the SECURE future of open wheel racing in the US would entail NASCAR either starting the "NASCAR Open Wheel Series" themselves, or... maybe now buying out the IRL, and making it the "NASCAR Indycar Series" - coupled with the massive NASCAR marketing engine, money, sponsors, track contracts, and brand recognition (that makes even something as silly as the Truck Series a success), it may well work!

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Outside of throwing money at it, there is NOTHING about NASCAR that would be better than what exists now.
NASCAR is what Bill France built, PERIOD.
GARRA is run by the NASCAR concern and was create by the NASCAR concern and it is as pathetic as the IMSA.

The France boy has to worry about throwing money at NASCAR and is NOT going to pee away millions on the IRL, if he did he is a bigger arrogant assinine fool than T. George.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

He's stepped down from the league as well as the track. He's now somewhere between Dayle Coyne and Conquest. Don't let the door hitcha Tony.

Nascar buy the IRL? The same NASCAR that has two manufacturers leaving one series altogether and possibly shutting down the truck series due to lack of sponsorship, all three manufacturers pulling back to only technical support in both lower national series and barely more than that in CUP? Yeah, they bought out the GRand Am, but the family already had a huge hand in the series to begin with. The same family that is totally screwing up AMA racing ? The same one currently run by yet another village idiot? It is certainly in vastly better shape than the IRL, but all ain't so rosy in Daytona.

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yeah i heard late lastnight he was gone from the IRL too :eek:

whoever takes over the IRL and IMS i hope they make the track and series bigger and better, just to show Tony that he had no clue, but again whoever does that really needs deep pockets, so much to fix in the IRL right now, how it woludnt shock me if Tony shut down Vision Racing and left the IRL, fans dont want him, and now other teams dont have to kiss*** to Tony cuz now hes just a car owner,

yeah i heard the truck series might shut down, witch is to bad cuz i really enjoy the trucks, i was talking with my gf about that lastnight on the phone she even said, NASCAR could shut down the trucks and NNS but out the IRL and have "the NASCAR open wheel series" and how weird that sounds,
but im with you NASCAR is losing alot too, i cant see NASCAR buying them

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Originally Posted by Gluaistean

I am guilty of being one of those who wanted the IRL to fail and ChampCar to survive. Everything about the IRL irritated me from Arute to George to the hypocrisy of the "vision" to the jumping ship of Ganassi and Penske and the late bolt of Fernandez a couple of days before the season opener.

I feel sad for the Dale Coyne's and the Conquest and HVM teams of the CC era. The LuczoDragons and Sarah Fisher's of the IRL. Passionate about racing and doing their utmost to get a car on-track. They always seem to manage a sponsor or two and that is nice to see the sidepods full. Alas, it is never enough money to keep the car on-track for the year as is evidenced when they go to Indy and become associate sponsors, IE, Dad's Root Beer.

I can't see the series staying alive past this year. It is not a desire of mine for it to fail. I was hoping that a new car and engine would be the catalyst to generate much needed publicity. I can't see that occurring now. I have a fear the season not even end.

Time for KK, Penske and Ganassi to get together and reform CC. Buy the cars back from this Green racing (sic) and start from scratch. (wishful thinking).

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Why so you can watch it go belly-up again?

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Originally Posted by garyshell

And just where, pray tell, do you see the $$$ coming from?

Gary

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Hear-hear, all they have to do is check how much IMSA pays and that idea looks rather foolish quickly.

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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew

Maybe the same reason that they wanted Grand Am.

Whatever that reason is.

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Money from NASCAR started Grand Am. (GARRA)
It was ALWAYS controlled by the France family pocket-book.

CART/Champ Car went away because most billionaires like Kevin Kalkhoven are basically cheap, and he couldn't see spending any more of his own money trying to compete with Tony George (being a rich exception) and the IRL, TG only too willing to go through his family fortune at IMS hellbent on bringing down CC. Who's to say Penske, Ganassi, and Kalkhoven couldn't do it right this time? With all three working together, they could be just what AOWR needs to get back to viability. If they could keep their egos in check, that is...

Grand Am cars (DP) are an abomination. They hobbled the GT2 911s with weight and air inlet restrictions so they wouldn't beat the snot out of the premier cars. Not trying to get off topic, just saying that's what the governing body of Grand Am is all about. FAKE.

There is nobody that has the money (and sense) that will buy the IRL. The rich kid's experiment may not have proved much.

Well Robin Miller got it right..........................AGAIN. I think open wheel is done for good now. Road racing is where it is. Better, teams, better cars, better drivers and best of all better racing. Old3Fan, one of the 1st 100 Forum Members signing off. Been a nice run. Bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And to think, that KK sold this guy absolutely everything, including CART/Champcars historical archives???

Will there be another series that gives us all we long for? The Champcar website still exists!! Has someone been waiting in the wings??

Leaving the name, the IRL was an omen in itself. Because of what it stands for, I could never refer to this series as that. That is why I always use the term "Indycar"........


Unification should have started with an all new series from the ground up. Using the best of both series.

There have been some good races! But, not nearly enough.

KK, and Champcar should have designed this with the Indycar series years ago, and spent the time building a series that would remain the greatest fans would ever see. Instead both series let the timer run completely out and now try to succeed on a series that was already a failure, "except for Indy, and even that race is a shell of its former self"....

Could've been, Should've been.

It is what it is.......which isn't enough IMO
It's an embarassment to all of those legendary drivers from long ago.

Test the DP01 on an oval, switch to honda turbos, and do this whole thing right!! Or somebody start over!

wishful thinking