And since when has scoring fewer points but being quicker in qualifying been a good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
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And since when has scoring fewer points but being quicker in qualifying been a good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Actually Heidfeld was beating Webber pretty comprehensively until his strange do at the end of the 05 season. He beat the Aussie to second at Monaco and grabbed pole at the Nurburgring and finished second there too.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Williams put Heidfeld on gardening leave when he decided he will race with Sauber the next season, up to that moment he was clearly the better driver at Williams that season.Quote:
Originally Posted by woody2goody
And beating Webber by four points Heidfeld didn't exactly destroy Webber, did he?Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
Was that before Heidfeld stopped racing for Williams, and 4 out of how many points?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
http://www.crash.net/formula+one/new...a_or_kimi.html
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Nick Heidfeld has revealed the driver he believes to have been his quickest team-mate over his nine years in Formula 1 – and it isn't who you might perhaps expect.
During his near-decade in the top flight, the experienced German has partnered – in chronological order – Jean Alesi at Prost Grand Prix, Kimi Raikkonen, Felipe Massa and Heinz-Harald Frentzen at Sauber, Giorgio Pantano and Timo Glock at Jordan, Mark Webber at Williams and Jacques Villeneuve and, currently, Robert Kubica at BMW-Sauber.
Between them, the aforementioned drivers have notched up no fewer than 44 grand prix victories and two world championship crowns, yet Heidfeld is still in search of his maiden triumph after 150 starts in the top flight, despite having eleven times finished up on the podium.
It is indeed illustrious company the man from Mönchengladbach has kept since he made his F1 debut back in 2000, and if he has successfully got the better of every driver on the above list on more than the odd occasion, 'Quick Nick' – as he is dubbed by his fans – nonetheless rates one of them ahead of all others in terms of outright pace.
“I'm pretty sure that Mark Webber has been the quickest team-mate I've had so far in terms of qualifying – he was very strong there,” he told his website, after being beaten nine-five by the Australian during their year spent together at Williams back in 2005 – even though at the time of his premature end to the campaign following a cycling accident, Heidfeld led the way in terms of points scored with 28 to 24.
I remember that Monaco race. I've never seen a driver so angry at getting his first podium. Webber was well ahead of Heidfeld before being stuck behind Alonso who was leading, allowing Heidfeld to close up, then the team brought Heidfeld into the pits before Webber, swapping the order. It was apparently a team stuff-up and pretty much accounts for the 4 points difference between the drivers, making the Heidfeld-Webber battle pretty much an even event at the time of Heidfeld's "gardening leave". Still, Heidfled was the only one to get near Webber, unlike drivers like DC or Rosberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by woody2goody
I think partnering up Vettel and Webber is great for both drivers. It should bring out the best in them both. Vettel seems faster on lighter loads where he can driver the socks of that RB, but Webber always seems to be able to keep good speed on a heavy middle stint that allows him to jump others at the final pit-stop.
In fairness to Nico it was his first season, and Webber's fifth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ent
anyone who thinks Heidfeld "easily" beat webber at williams is a fool, it was a very even deal, Webber beat Heidi easily in qualifying but in the races Webber was still in the middle of his "wild years" and threw away a fair few points whereas Heidfeld was more consistant, but to suggest that either drive dramatically got the better of the other either has a poor memory or just doesn't like the other driver because it was very even, but webber had an obvious edge in outright pace as his qualifying record against heidfeld showed
Heidfeld had 28 points, Webber had 24.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
They were 3-3 in races where they both finished.
Having said that, Mark was underwhelming that year.
He made several rather silly errors (San Marino, Nurburgring) and was on the receiving end of the dumbest non-SC related crash I've seen in the last 5 years, courtesy of Fisichella in Malaysia.
But Nico's raw pace was only better than Mark's in Bahrain in 2006, it all went downhill for him in the next 17 races.Quote:
Originally Posted by woody2goody