But lets be clear here. The true motivation to those that would support this series is that it is not run by TG. That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
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But lets be clear here. The true motivation to those that would support this series is that it is not run by TG. That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
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Originally Posted by downtowndeco
It's always an "us versus them" argument for you, isn't it? While I agree there would be a certain constituency among their possible supporters that feel that way, I am in no way ready to suggest it is the ONLY constituency. As mentioned before there are likely to be a group of vintage folks (both drivers and fans) who will be interested.
Hell, if it turns out that all the PR fluff about its "ultimate goal is to bring back premiere open wheel racing at all levels that reflects the purest racing values that the fans and drivers love", turns out to be just PR fluff and its REAL goal is to be nothing more than a "arrive and drive" series which doesn't represent a challenge to competing for sponsors, venues or teams, then I'll watch too.
Gary
You may be right - but I don't think so - this one is not about the IRL. I really think this is just a guy using old Champcars in an effort to create a niche in a significantly different area of the motor-sports spectrum than the IRL. Like Gary, I doubt this thing makes it far, and I am pretty sure it will never see "real" television. I seriously doubt the efficacy of his plan in this economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
Anyway, to the defenders and haters of TG alike - I really do not think Greenprix represents ANYTHING to the IRL.... At the most it will cause some people to attend one of their races instead of an IRL race that is less convenient (i.e. - if Greenprix were to ever come to NJMP I would probably drop any thoughts of ever going to see the IRL 5 hours away in Watkins Glen - but if both come to NJMP I'd go to both...)
That would be nice if they had a race or two in the NY/NJ area. IndyCar, forget about it, and NASCAR, no thanks. I do not see it any differently than a vintage series or Atlantics, which sounds like it's going under anyway. But if they want to rebrand it as "CC is no longer dead" and get some of the diehards, then I guess that's an ok business approach. No one says they have to be honest in their marketing or press releases.
If they rebrand it as "CC is no longer dead", they better bring more money than Kalkhoven and Forsythe.
And the IRL is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Right now there are 4 formula series that have superior cars and technology.
F1
GP2
A1GP
Superleague
Doen't say much about a series when 3 "ladder" series are above the US's top series.
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Originally Posted by downtowndeco
And how did you come to that conclusion?
And which of those actually run 200+ mph on ovals? Oh yeah, none. They're all road course-specific cars, not comparable. Regardless of the Honda/Dallara technology, it's a solid spec that has run its course and within 2 years will have a successor. Is this other series offering a new spec in that timeframe, or any? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Agreed, Nick.....and it's just Anthony's opinion about the "ladder."
Let me clarify. I was talking about the "fans" that are rah rahing this potential series, not the investors. IMO the investors are just trying to make a buck and there is nothing against that. But I can't take any "fans" who think this is a good idea seriously, can you Gary? You know their motivation.
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Originally Posted by garyshell