So now people have more common sense and better judgement because they've won a few titles? Does that mean that if Michael comes out and says the penalty is fine then it's fine on basis of rank? Oh wait.... I forgot that Michael is biased :) Gimme a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
As I said before, there is no actual evidence of any bias on the part of the FIA. If someone is ever able to come forward with a document or a secret recording proving otherwise, then fine — I'll consider changing my view. Until then, it's nothing but a conspiracy theory. There is nothing untoward with anything Max has said about Ferrari and its place in the F1 pantheon. The remarks struck me as perfectly reasonable. Can we please, some time, move on from this?
My opinion is that when mcmerc had a rubbish car, when the engines kept blowing up - they didnt have any penalties ! As soon as they have a car that regulary beats ferrari, the best driver, and team - then the FIA have to MAKE SURE that the red team win - by demotion, penalties & so on. Check the history, it dont lie.
10 place grid penalties.Quote:
Originally Posted by horse77
Does a "grossly inaccurate and misleading" email, produced by the FIA to counter McLaren's efforts to present a precedent at the Spa appeal hearing count?Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
That's a load of crap. The incident should be judged on it's own. As many have pointed out a mistake in the past doesn't justify doing it wrong now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
McLaren should take their punishment on the chin, stfu, win the drivers title and look good for it too. But no they'll bitch, moan and whine their way through the rest of the season and probably lose the title yet again.
I'll quote from that link to show Hamilton as the arrogant little child he is. Yes I've done a little editing but I think it's appropriate :)
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A highlight was Hamilton gobbing off as usual during and exchange with Ferrari's lawyer, Nigel Tozzi QC.
'Are you a racing driver?' he asked Tozzi when challenged over his view of the incident. 'I've been racing since I was eight and I know pretty much every single move in the book and that's why I am the best at my job.'
But the point is that there wasn't a mistake in the past, rather the FIA are attempting to smear Tony Scott-Andrews by claiming that he'd admitted making a mistake with the Liuzzi case when in fact he'd never said any such thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Does that not ring any alarm bells? :s
Sorry I take that back then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
So to confirm, you think its ok to punish one driver for an incident, and not another for doing exactly the same incident?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Well, McLaren have been penalised more than any other team this season. And some have been quite frankly totally wrong. The punishment of Alonso last year at Hungary, effectively costing Alonso the title, the contructors points removed from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
The chicane cutting by Hamilton, where Schumacher did exactly the same, Hamilton got punished and they just said they respect the decision.
I think they know theres no point moaning and bitching about it, but there got to be a point when they have to appeal to get some kind of explanation. They seem to be "breaking these rules" and getting punished whereas other teams aren't getting punished.
I don't blame them for appealing, enough is enough, they need to get an understanding and get a clear cut answer, as the Stewards inconsistancies is costing them title after title.