When the government says no more you can pretty much bet on it. This is not a new story it actually broke before this years race and Bernie just shrugged his shoulders.Quote:
Originally Posted by veeten
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When the government says no more you can pretty much bet on it. This is not a new story it actually broke before this years race and Bernie just shrugged his shoulders.Quote:
Originally Posted by veeten
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...806250459/1004
Another rumor bites the dust.
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Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
Really? Doesn't sound like Joey is shoveling any dirt on the grave just yet.
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Chitwood did not rule out the possibility of a race for next year as F-1’s schedule won’t be confirmed until the fall, but he said it gets “tougher and tougher every day” to make it happen.
Gary
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It isn't on the 2009 schedule yet and they have until the fall. No sponsor and not willing to put up $35,000,000.
That tells me Joey and TG got the shovel ready.
Im sure, you've read all the driver contracts...Quote:
Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
Yeah and in some reasons it's just two laps and just a penalty - but under the right circumstances you win anyway.Quote:
Really what reason? In some cases you just aren't fast enough. You know Richard Petty came from 5 laps down and won by 5 at Dover? That is being in the right place to win.
It's the same with the CART-product. Tehere was nothing wrong with it on the track at least untill 2001, except losing Indy...
That being in the right team at the right time isn't formula one specific.Quote:
Your point is?
Sure, NASCAR does want it to be a driver's championship, but nevertheless being in the right time is also important.Quote:
Kyle Busch wins, then how can they win? Competition is tougher and NASCAR wants that.
By one point and with a lot of luck and only because of team orders in brazil.Quote:
Who won? The best car right?
The second driver in the best car became fourth...
The drivers championship was won by Hunt because of the car and the constuctor's championship by Ferrari because of the driver.Quote:
Because of Lauda
Maybe you should learn to to concede that you are wrong.
The reason Ferrari won the CWM was not Lauda scoring more points than Hunt but Regazzoni scoring more than Mass...
Perhaps the fact, english not being my native language is not helping to understand your sometimes...Quote:
How is that? Driver must carry the day. Team once the race is on does only the chinese fire drill.
Because of the Todt/Massa relationship?Quote:
That is why Minardi is gone.
Because Bernie bailed them out?Quote:
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I didn't read the contracts. But hte other way around: The name in f1 that bought his way in?Quote:
Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
Why? Because a brazilian won the Indy500 and the championhsip?Quote:
What was right about it? Most fans, real fans got tired of it by 1989.
I know a lot of fans who got excited later. Perhaps the crowd changed and became more international...
Who knows if the teams that won championships would have done this with other drivers. Would Benetton had won without Schumacher, Renault without Alonso? I doubt. Or long time ago, Brabham without Piquet (twice), Williams in 82 without Rosberg, Tyrrell without Stewart? Who knows...Quote:
History proves otherwise except for Fangio
That doesn't change the fact that you need the right team and car anyway.Quote:
In 38 races fortunes change in half of that they tend to remain the same.
That a McLaren not automatically was faster than a Ferrari....Quote:
This thread is about the expense of an F-1 race that may not happen. Clay beating Jochen is important how?
Thanks... I will write "chinese drill" into my dictionary...Quote:
Pit stops.
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Because Bernie bailed them out?
Lack of sponsors, less money...
Mark Webber, Justin WilsonQuote:
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Nope, lousy racing. If both Al and Emmo crashed, the race would still be going.Quote:
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Nope, no connection to the then 900 tracks that ran weekly shows.Quote:
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Yes but history does know.Quote:
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I will change my opinion when Ferrari or McLaren does not win the title.Quote:
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Your point?Quote:
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You're welcome, we restict the number of men over for safety reasons.Quote:
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and Bernie not going to bail out for another year. Do you know what happens if the number of teams falls below 8?Quote:
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Webber gets paid at RedBull, and Wilson is dricing IndyCars...Quote:
Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
There were a lot dnfs thus year. But even in the old times, there were big gaps from time to time...Quote:
Nope, lousy racing. If both Al and Emmo crashed, the race would still be going.
They have more international fans?Quote:
Nope, no connection to the then 900 tracks that ran weekly shows.
What does it know?Quote:
Yes but history does know.
1950,1952,1955,1960,1961,1967,1978,1979,1984,1987, 1988,1989,1992,1996,1997*,2002,2004
That's the years when teammates finished first and second in the championship. In all other years minimum one driver findished between the world champion and his teammate in the same car. So it's hard to say, it's only the car. In this case, teammates everytime would finish first and second.
So it's 16 (17 if you count 1997) times out of 58!
The last time it happend two years ago.Quote:
I will change my opinion when Ferrari or McLaren does not win the title.
There is no evidence for McLaren being better than the Ferrari this year.Quote:
Your point?
ANd by the way: If the McLaren would have been the better car, that would work against your arguments, because Lauda in the Ferrari dominated 1976, until his accident.
Congraulations!Quote:
You're welcome, we restict the number of men over for safety reasons.
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and Bernie not going to bail out for another year. Do you know what happens if the number of teams falls below 8?
Bernie would found a team... But with the best ten teams getting a lot money from the foca there is no chance we will have less than 20 cars...
That is how both got to F-1.... A ride buy.Quote:
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That's racing.Quote:
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Nope, not enough drivers with names that can be pronounced.Quote:
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Yup I believe 1994 was the only year since 1908 and NASCAR not yet?Quote:
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Good.Quote:
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Look, you think that is racing. Here in this country it is contrived racing. Me, I frankly don't care, if you want to twist the history fine but it has always been a series for a few.Quote:
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Amazing 5 guys doing what an army of guys in 2 more seconds.Quote:
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Better because otherwise the surviving teams would have to cough of another car.Quote:
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After 2010, no customer cars there you go.
ALSO: THE AUSTRALIAN GP is on UNTIL 2015. An agreement was made and both Victoria and Bernie are happy. The race will not run at Night like the Europeans wanted but will start at 5:00PM local.
So we can close this thread.