Scott Goodyear is great he tells it like it is and does a good job !
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Scott Goodyear is great he tells it like it is and does a good job !
My two pennies for what they are worth....but I find orchestrated 'pack racing' really, really, really boring. It renders the first 199 laps of a race largely irrelevant, or certainly anything before the final pit-stop/caution.
What we got on Saturday was a good motor race. When Dixon, Kanaan or Andretti had a faster car, they would pull away, and it would be up to others to drive faster and catch up, which they sometimes did, there was Wheldon making his way up from the back, and all in all you can say that whoever won deserved to win (Kanaan's dose of misfortune aside), which is what any sport should be about IMO.
Was it a classic? No, but a good, honest old-fashioned motor race that I enjoyed and had no complaints about.
I like the bull fight analogy as well. Remember if EVERY race was a tense thriller, then by comparison NONE of them would be.
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Originally Posted by MarcoCheever
BOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG. ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz.
Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. He is like listening to paint dry. We realy need someone like Parker Johnstone, Tommy Kendall or Jon Beekihus in the booth. My prferenece would have to be Jon. He is the best I have EVER heard in my 50 plus years of listening.
Gary
I like that bullfight analogy!!! It was an ok race to me, and the average race is just that, ok, imo.
Of course during the split the partisans would proclaim each race of theirs a classic and of the others a joke.
The fact that we are mainly discussing announcers, must mean the race was ok lol...
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Good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcoCheever
All I can ever think of when I see Goodbeer on TV is..........
"WAS THAT REALLY THE PACE CAR???????????"
He needs to go hang out with Jared from Subway. He's looking a little pudgy.
As for Reed, it was a single thought coming ionto my mind over and over.
That man should not be shot in HD. He looked like Lon Chaney in Phantom of the Opera!!!!!!
They did okay, IMO. Champcar races were pretty bad last year with the exception of Jon. It was usually a constant uninformed homer fest.
Oh yeah, Jack Arute, please do your homework. I heard him say the drivers had a hard time adjusting to the car after dark becasue they only tested in the day time. Jackie, you are still an ****clown.
I was rooting pretty hard for Marco to win. The kid could use a break after having a bad year in 2007.
One HUGE thing missing last night......PT.
Free him of his contract NOW!!!!!!!!!
Looking forward to St. Pete.
Not since CCWS's HDNet coverage back in '04 did I enjoy American open wheel racing in true HiDef. (Although I beg to differ with the announcers, the in-car view is widescreen but not true HiDef) So I say cheers. Now if only F1 was in HiDef on SpeedHD...
The loose cars being faster because they had less downforce. Less downforce means less drag. Less drag means faster speeds. Even though they had to lift in the corners, the straightaway speeds were greater, making them faster overall per lap. I haven't seen all the race yet (I'm watching it tonight) but from what I saw, the fast cars were twitchy in the corners but they weren't driving them, in a broadslide, like sprint car drivers do. IndyCars are also a lot faster than spint cars, so the transition between sprint / dirt cars is very difficult. They are very different cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Jeff
The problem is the IRL cars have waaaaaay too much downforce. Even trimmed out, the wings are gigantic and make for less than scintillating racing. The end result is the cars travel the same speed pretty much all around the track. Boring.
To me, this just illustrates the problem with the IRL formula. If this were a CC race there would be more lifting, faster straightaway speeds and more passing. A lot more variation all the way around the track. Hopefully they get this fixed with the new formula.
I just kept thinking that contrived or not, the whole show would have been infinetly better with the Handford device.
The other problem is, as some of you noted, the coverage. ABC's IRL coverage is just plain cheesy and boring. Goodyear is boring, Jack-a-root is boring with his stupid up close and personal crap, and the little interviews trying to make Tony Kannan interesting just doesn't cut it. I also cringed at the phoney emergence from the cockpit scene with the confetti and the staged cheers. It was so obvious and so forced.
Give me Paul "whoa" Page and a drunk Derek Daly making racist remarks about Hiro anyday, followed by AJ bitch slapping somebody in the winners circle. At least they're really into the product.
Wish I could say the same thing. It's going to be a long two years if this keeps up.
Too much downforce....too little downforce....too much wing....not enough wing.....too much horsepower....not enough horsepower....too fast....too slow......TV good....HD good.....TV bad.....HD bad......Jeremy Shaw good.....Jack Arute bad.......Jack Arute fine......rules are good......rules are bad.....officials are good.....officials are bad......CC drivers are good on ovals......CC drivers are bad on ovals............Graham Rahal crashed....Dan Wheldon crashed.....
Did I miss any fly crap to be taken out of the pepper?
1. Yeah, but I also heard someone say something to the effect of "there was no more grip on the front end of the car so they had to take some off of the rear". I'm not sure whether or not they meant downforce or overall grip from the rear.Quote:
Originally Posted by cartpix
2. I thought that the wing angles were fixed.