I think (and hope) Tanghe will beat Michel.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
Very good entrylist in DS3 R3 cup, previous years this cup was in the shadow of the 208 cup.
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I think (and hope) Tanghe will beat Michel.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
Very good entrylist in DS3 R3 cup, previous years this cup was in the shadow of the 208 cup.
I' not so sure about Tanghe ... but Touquet is one of his favorite events. He is already fast there. So maybe he can do it, as Michel comes from the mountains. But for me, Michel is top national class driver. Still young, coming from cups, with the possibility to do an international carrier. As Tanghe is a very good but only gentleman driver.
test day for some regional pilots: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrTIAtqj4ek
As expected, WRC’s are leading Rallye du Touquet ahead a pack of R5’s. Brunson leads 21s ahead of Salanon in an identical Fiesta WRC. Sylvain (Fabia) is in flying mode, dominating R5 field and beating Roche (Mini WRC) for 3rd overall. Roulliard in a restricted 3.8 911 is far away, fighting with last R5’s guys.
Like usual, fine coverage from http://www.rallye-sport.fr/es16-touquet-2016/
Amazing performance from Michel in his debut with R5,has already won 5 stages.....Great battle also between the Citroen DS3's ,strange that were ahead of Guigou prior of his accident
Final results:
1. Brunson (Fiesta WRC) 1:46:40,4
2. Salanon (Fiesta WRC) +21,1
3. Michel (Fabia R5) +30,9
4. Roche (Mini WRC) +46,6
5. Tanghe (Fiesta R5) +3:20,2
6. Ragues (DS3 R5) +5:07,5
7. Mauffrey (208 T16 R5) +5:27,5
8. Rouillard (911 GT3) +5:42,2
9. Raynal (Fiesta R5) +5:53,0
10. Rossel (DS3 R3T) +6:10,4
Very impressive debut from Michel indeed! Other R5 drivers were nowhere close to him. In the end he won 6 out of 18 stages against the WRC drivers.
With WRC's running on RRC's specs (but with 30mm restrictor) french championship would be amazing.
Nobody would drive them then. They would be just very expensive toys.
I think WRC will be banned from main championship for next year. Running second division and gravel onyl.
Or they will be able to run the event, but without taking points - you know, why do it easy ... politics story to follow this year.
So, amazing Michel, nice to see him so strong. It will be nice battle with Bonato all the season :)
Other great race has been done by Rossel, dominating Citroën Cup. Don't know if he will do JWRC this year, or only focus on CRT.
CRTJ has been won by Loïc Astier, a guy with a lot of experience (4th season).
Current owners would, for sure. The initial investment it's already made and running cost must be very similar as they are more reliable than R5's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
The 30mm restrictor proved to be a good way to match RRC's and R5 speed. It's a mystery why FIA imposed the 28mm.
No, the running cost of RRC cars is approximately double to R5. R5 aren't more expensive to run than S2000 (in some cases they are even cheaper - Fiesta R5 compared to Fiesta S2000). You can check M-Sport website, service intervals and prices shall be available there. Some prices for WRC/RRC cars are ridiculously high. If I remember standard engine rebuild for Fabia S2000 was 11 thousand Euro but for Mini WRC/RRC it was nearly 30 thousand and Fiesta wasn't much cheaper.
Double seems to be a bit exaggerate. RRC's parts are for sure more expensive but you won't have to replace them so frequently as on R5's. It's amazing to see how often R5 top teams replace their cars for new ones, while RRC's teams use them for several seasons.
I believe it's more than double but maybe somebody has some real data available. Anyway if I remember Fiesta WRC parts had very short service intervals, for gearbox it used to be only 400 km (it was before last evolution).
I was told by a man running several Fiesta R5 and before several Fabias S2000 here in CZ that the running costs are circa same. Afaik normally it was around 100 Euro/km. I can't imagine how You can push WRC car under 200 Euro. Some very old WRC cars for sure yes but modern ones?
The announced R5's service intervals look like a rally myth. From what I've heard, R5 winning teams tend to use shorter intervals to prevent R5 reliability issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Back to the French championship: why ban WRC's if they can continue to be competitive in 30mm RRC's specs? Why should a Fiesta or a Mini WRC owner have to sell his car at an unfair price (outlawed cars are always hugely depreciated) just because there's a rally monopoly that obliges everyone to get a R5?
Take Italy case. If 30mm RRC’s would be allowed at CIR the series would be much stronger and run CIWRC alongside CIR would become redundant. Having different series for different rally classes isn’t the way to promote national rallying, especially when it’s not that difficult to put all classes together in a competitive way.
Probably that has been FFSA major fault: being unable to get a proper BOP in order to match all top rally classes allowed at CFR.
I don't speak about theoretic stuff. I wrote the experience from real team doing real rallies (even winning some international ones).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/mont...1458420625.jpg
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/737341P1150297.jpg
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watch how stupid can be somebody.
https://youtu.be/aKiwKAhLT78
Sylvain moment
https://youtu.be/wPXoUZtJhIk
Brunson mistake
https://youtu.be/uOXVH9zKEAM
SébastienLoebRacing @LoebRacing
1er rallye pour le team et 1ère victoire :-) @QuentinGiordano remporte le Rallye de Meuse avec six scratchs sur six.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeAdw93W4AAhiv0.jpg
Here is my video of the rally of the Meuse in 2016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPpAA5EKVI
Driver remain pretty cool. Very lucky escape for the "she's stupid or what? bit**" marshall!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Touquet video from FFSA
https://youtu.be/XE9EMWFS9JM
Entries Terre des causses so far. Ghislain de Mévius warming up for WRC2 Portugal
http://www.rallye-des-causses.org Click ENGAGES
French regional rally held today:
Rallye franche-comté 2016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJMRc3Z5X4Q
Almost 150 entries on the final list. Lefebvre in a C4WRC and more than 30 crews on 208 Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly
Some of my pics from Epernay (first round of D2 championship). First time I went there ... just amazing ! My pics aren't that good to tell this, because I wasn't really well placed to take it - and I'm not a top photographer ... but that was amazing to spectate. You can see the cars running of very long distance thanks to hills.
The roads are quite strange, very slippery and bumpy in the vineyards. That's not like in Germany. Here it's a kind of yellow roads with gravel inside, and what is interesting it's that these roads aren't flat - I guess to drain away water. + there's metal gate on the roads, for water too. That creates some jumps. + there's hills, who can be very very sloped.
Sébastien Loeb Racing was here ... and Loeb too, in his helicopter. I think he may be happy, as yesterday Giordano - Rebout were 1-2. Unfortunately Folb was in rally 2 -mechanical trouble in front of me, but he did well therefore, easily leading 2WD. But it seems this morning Giordano had troubles. Rebout is now leading, Bayard with his old Corolla is 2nd and Giordano 3rd.
And for my portuguese friends : look at classification, and you will understand why I said Pereira is slow.
So, a few pics ...
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo...2016%20061.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo...2016%20219.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo...2016%20771.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo...2016%20140.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo...2016%20681.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo...2016%20756.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo...2016%20801.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo...2016%20691.jpg
More here : http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=2...Champagne-2016
http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=3...pagne-VHC-2016
Lefebvre at Rallye Terre des Causses
https://www.facebook.com/14992344845...7943525321499/
Rallye Terre des Causses:
1. Lefebvre (C4 WRC) 1:25:44,2
2. Margaillan (Fabia R5) +3:18,6
3. Maurin (Fabia R5) +3:30,8
4. Cuoq (C4 WRC) +3:45,3
5. Chieusse (307 WRC) +4:36,8
6. De Mevius (Fabia R5) +5:38,0
7. Falco (Evo IX) +6:55,0
8. Mordacq (Evo X) +6:57,9
9. Carbonaro (Xsara WRC) +7:03,9
10. Vila (207 S2000) +9:40,4
Crazy shot of Lefebvre: https://www.facebook.com/v/947943525321499/
For me this link leads to a way another things than rally ;) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
https://www.facebook.com/14992344845...7943525321499/ This will work. ;)
My video of the rally epernay vins de champagne 2016.
French championship of the rallies 2nd division
of rapids ; of technique and a pin, in brief some beautiful passages to the program.
Good Viewing!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yPQJD_4rqE
Facebook page: www.facebook.com/SpeedEstRacing/
Lefebvre in flying mode, nice 2nd from Magaillan and big fight on 208 Cup (Lopez first win).
FFSA Terre des Causes video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ommK-y4Z5ow
Here is my video of the rally of the river drugeon 2016 held yesterday in France
On the program: 1 small jump with some heat and 2 pretty fast passages.
Good viewing !!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b08a_0W5xJ8
Entrylist for next week's rallye Lyon-Charbonnières now in seeded order available ;)
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-eng...onnieres-2016/
Good to see more R5 than in Touquet. So few WRC's in this rally, whereas there always was a lot there. Their time seems to be gone ...
Trojani maybe for podium, with the top R5 guys : Michel vs Bonato.
Video French rally (Rallye du cristal 2016) is online!
The thick rope; of slide ; spin and a little crash of maxime brash (Clio RS) are in this video program
Enjoy the show and feel free to share.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImTzyAzVxI8
It seems like it's time to ban WRC cars from the national tarmac championship, would be better for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
So as espected, the first day shows a great fight between Salanon and Brunson for the lead. Then Trojani, Bonato, Michel and even Roché were there for the podium.
But during day 2, a lot of things changed. Whereas Bonato was amazingly fast, and coming back on Salanon, he went off. So Salanon was quite alone, as Brunson doesn't seem to be as fast to overpass him. But on SS12, Brunson came back by 16" ! But on last stage, he had a puncture, and lost his 2nd place to Michel, who did the best result of the week end.
1 Salanon (Fiesta WRC)
2 Michel (Fabia R5) 54"
3 Brunson (Fiesta WRC) 1'12
4 Roché (Fabia R5) 2'06
5 Trojani (C4 WRC) 2'39
6 Raynal (Fiesta R5) 3'46
7 Mauffrey (208 T16) 4'13
8 Despinasse (Fabia S2000) 6'06
9 Guigou (Clio R3T) 7'25
10 Bect (207 S2000) 8'14
...
Clio R3T Trophy :
1 Vaillant
2 Jouines 41"
3 Chavanne 1'03
4 Martin 3'02
5 Corneau 4'26
...
DS3 R1 Trophy
1 Jamet
2 di Fante 19"
3 Boulenc 2'33
4 Chancel 3'52
5 Gagniere 5'38
...
Yes, I agree, it's high time. I'm surprised some national championships still allow WRC cars. It's nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Maybe they don't need to be banned, at least the 1.6T cars. They can run in RRC specs (with 30mm restrictor) and still be competitive, helping to provide a more diversified field. And current owners wouldn't be forced to sell their car at unfair prices.
Rally Sainte-Baume 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I4_dirKk9k