Hamilton Stripped of Win - Official

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Originally Posted by COD

Massa echoes what Trulli allready said. Don't you think these professional now a bit better than all the conspiracy theorists here???

Massa:

Incidents like this have often been discussed in the official driver briefings, when it has been made absolutely clear that anyone cutting a chicane has to fully restore the position and also any other eventual advantage gained. If Lewis had taken the chicane correctly, he would never have been able to pass Kimi on the very short straight that follows it. That was my immediate opinion after seeing the replay.

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With trulli it is a wildcard trying to link what he says to any Ferrari conspiracy, but looking at Massa he gets a win and cuts the championship lead to 2 points - as if he's not going to biased, in much the same way he was arguing that he should not have been penalised last race. I'd wait to hear the appeal (if we have one) too cute by half this whole incident and i would honestly love to see whether the same penalty had applied if the roles were reversed and Hamilton was overtaken by Kimi in the same manner than lewis crashed out

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Originally Posted by yodasarmpit

"If Race Control had instead expressed any concern regarding Lewis’s actions at that time, we would have instructed Lewis to allow Kimi to repass for a second time."

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Which is why there should've been no time penalty issued after the flag dropped.

Its not about Hamiton's guilt or innocence its the penalty that smells. In-Race penalties are only appropriate when there is an actual race underway.

:crazy:

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Originally Posted by yodasarmpit

The actual quote, as your paraphrase is very misleading.

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If you find my sentence misleading go ahead but I can assure you it was NOT done on purpose. I am pretty honest when I say or write something. So, take it easy, buddy.

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Originally Posted by driveace

Ralph says its wrong

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If Ralf says the call was wrong, then it was probably right - we all remember how good Ralf's eyesight is!!!! :)

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Originally Posted by Whyzars

In-Race penalties are only appropriate when there is an actual race underway.

:crazy:

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Not saying that I agree with the LH situation, but in general if you limit penalties to being carried out during a race, then you're either going to have a last lap free-for-all (since you couldn't react to impose a penalty) or a penalty will have to carry over to the next race. In this case that would mean the stewards would have LH do a drive-thru during the first laps of the next race. That wouldn't go over too well, either.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Tough question to answer , Mr. Jones .
It must be deemed that the driver gains no advantage from the off-track move .
At different speeds this will always be different .
In this case , Hamilton has admitted that he had a tow in the slipstream , and the stewards perhaps saw this as less likely , had he stayed on track behind in the chicane .

It's got to be a judgement call in every case .

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Yeah, plus Jarno made a good point - since he cut the chicane and the runoff was asphalt he was able to keep his speed, drop back and attack again.

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Originally Posted by ioan

:laugh:
I just knew someone will say something like this!
Hamilton fanatics are way to predictable, just like him! :rotflmao:

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LOL

The irony!

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Originally Posted by driveace

Oh and Jarno has an opinion too ! Is Jarno trulli Italian ? is Ferrari Italian? Lets all stick together.Just whereabouts was Jarno when this happened OR did he see it just the same as us all on film
Ralph says its wrong,Niki says its wrong,and they are not italian ,so therefore not biassed

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Trulli himself might not be but the paper that he told is Italian:

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Originally Posted by HenryM

Trulli told Gazzetta dello Sport.

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Italian press like the English press is biased. British press in favour of Hamilton, and the Italian press in favour of Ferrari. It's a reasonable slant for them to take since they're in the business of selling newspapers.

It's probably impossible to find any unbiased or neutral reports, because virtually everyone has an agenda (and for newspapers, it's selling ad space).

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

LOL

The irony!

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probably your right. ;)

It seems that Charlie Whiting confirmed, possibly twice, that the way LH dropped back behind Kimi was OK. However, the race stewards took a diiferent view. Is there a case for teams checking with both the race director and the race stewards? Particularly as it appears that the stewards can override the race director's decision.