My thoughts exactly, from my understanding it was VW motorsport who mainly used(still uses in WRX) Sachs as a parts supplier and did the majority of development etc. in house.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
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My thoughts exactly, from my understanding it was VW motorsport who mainly used(still uses in WRX) Sachs as a parts supplier and did the majority of development etc. in house.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
Ogier from the Press Conference pre-Germany:
Q:
Sébastien, Finland was frustrating for you, we all saw that. But crucially you scored more points than your championship rival, Thierry Neuville, which was the objective. However, we could all see that frustration. Tell me about what happened after that? The analysis when you looked at the performance, was there anything that came out of chats with the team? What went wrong?
O:
We would love to exactly know. We have some idea, but we haven´t really worked on it yet. We discussed it of course, but we haven’t had the chance to test it again. We have some idea. Maybe we went in a direction that was wrong somehow. That was clearly the worst performance of the season, for us and the whole team. There was a lot of talk around my error, but that was not the reason. All the cars were not on the same pace as me, more or less, after day one and after the cleaning effects. It’s been a hard weekend, but now we focus on the next one. At least the only positive we could kind of celebrate, but not really a celebration, but to score more points that Thierry. That’s the most important and that’s what we need to achieve at every event.
Q:
I have never seen you analyse data so much, even in media zones, as you did in Finland. Did you find that unusual?
SO:
I have always been someone who likes to win, that you know. And when it’s not going as you want, as planned, I think it’s normal to do everything you can to turn it around. In Finland we tried everything we could and the feeling did improve during the weekend. In fact a bit better. Even on the last stage, the power stage, I was trying hard to get points. I was still finishing P6. So it was not fantastic.
If M-Sport are still interested in the constructors they need to put Meeke in the #2 car and put Evans in an R5 for the remainder of the season and maybe let Evans have a go in car #3 in Wales and maybe Spain. It's risky but it's pretty much the only chance.
Maybe not that simple. Depends if Kris' contract was terminated or if he was just put on gardening leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
As has been mentioned on here before, there may be lawyers involved. If that is the case, I would hope it is only to get out of an existing contract allowing him to move on, rather than for any other reason, as that might end up being negative for both parties.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Meeke would be the last person to put to that car
how much do you want to bet..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Why not? Meeke is great driver, but don't have any chance to prove that. He was in shitty cars all of his life. But that's the price to get to the top.
Whatever you wantQuote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
He wont ve driving this year in WRC anymore
I think that's equal chance of Ogier retiring, Latvala losing a seat at Toyota, Evans probably going back to R5, Paddon going to Citroen, Lappi too, Loeb start to competing again and by the last (joking) VW enter again in championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
He wasn't in shitty cars all of his life, and many of the cars that were not quite the best have been at least partially developed by him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017.../8_NopeRat.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
Manu's Ch'ship was never realistic this season.
As for Meeke he's still under contract at Citroen, not sacked.
Too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
visit to M-sport https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBfZF7HpnQE&t=
this site claims that FIA doesnt accept homologation for the new rear aero https://translate.google.ee/translat...%2F&edit-text=
How could he drive with it already? You can't have extra parts on your road car without homologaton and if you got it installed and cops get you you immediately get fine and technical inspection. With WRC is little different and publicy all over the world I think that this is aginst the rules and need to get the fine...
No one besides that site has mentioned it. Probably they got confused with pairing rule, not knowing Finland/Germany cars can’t be use in Turkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Good piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Autosport on Ford's lack of support:
"I have lost count of the number of times I've talked to Ogier and been left in no doubt his preferred option has always been to stay where he is. But he's made it equally clear that he wanted to see commitment from the Blue Oval.
And when he said commitment, he meant money. Investment. Cash.
We're all very well aware that Ford's stepped up its technical input into this year's car and, yes, there was a bunch of bodyshells handed over at the top of the programme. But that never was and never will be enough.
Ford has reaped praise and pleasure from Sebastien Ogier's time at M-Sport and, as far as I can see, such return remains unwarranted.
Ford of Europe's Gerard Quinn has worked tirelessly to try to tune America into rallying, but the reluctance from Detroit remains astonishing.
For a genuinely small-change cash injection at M-Sport, I believe Ogier would have stayed where he was. If there'd been sensible investment, the Frenchman would have stayed even longer and likely won world championships for fun.
Sitting firmly in front of an open goal, Ford has put the ball so high over the bar it will come down with snow on it.
And when it does come down, Ogier will be long gone and would-be Ford world titles will be written in history.
And they'll be written in French."
Ford 'talk the talk', but won't 'walk the walk'......Their priorities are in US based series., and not WRC; though they'll jump on any bandwagon should M-Sport win anything.
I certainly don't blame Ogier for leaving; he just wants proper commitment from Ford. They can't - so he's gone somewhere were he will.
It's a shame, this whole scenario.
But cheers Andre, a few years ago Ogier at M-Sport winning a championship would not have been possible.
Ford US is ditching the Fiesta and Fiesta ST (heck, even the new Focus will only be available in quasi-SUV 'Active' trim) and the Ford Performance money is from the US, not the EU. If the Mustang was being rallied like the Gran Turismo concept, then I'm sure the FP would chuck more money in, but that's not possible.
We will have the old M-Sport with young wolfs. I would like something like Suninen, Tidemand and Sordo.
We need some other manufacturer to jump in with M-Sport maybe Subaru? :)
Ford Europe are in a tough situation right now financially which probably isn't helping matters either.
I see the new Mk4 Focus being advertised non-stop on TV here. I dont remember the previous ones getting/needing this promotion.
Fiesta WRC success isnt going to help the other models.
Not even Fiesta`s own success, but brand in general.
That's exactly what I've thought for ages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
Seriously Malcom. Find someone who is willing to pay you for your services. Some free body shells every year is peanuts for a multi billion dollar company like Ford.
I get that there is some emotional connection but one sided affection doesn't work. You are giving them a huuuuuuge amount of free advertising and they are not responding.
There must be so many manufacturers that can actually pay you for what you are doing. Find them and sign a deal.
NEW chinese MG for instance? Mitsubishi? Lancia or someone in Fiat group?
There must be someone.
Or start developing his own car brand
Not gonna happen now with the 2017-spec Fiesta WRC already in use.
Maybe down the line when the next car regs are announced.
So Malcolm would be ready to ditch/reset his R1-R5 business for the sake of getting more manufacturer support in the WRC category? Don't think so...also, there's probably no manufacturers interested in joining in at the moment.
Fiesta R5 is really outdated so I doubt they are making too many sales on them before they get a proper update (is there actually any coming?) to fight with Skoda, VW and even C3. New manu could also get a R5 from the basis of Fiesta.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
R5 Fiesta mk8 should be already in works...then there are R1s and R2s, last of them really popular and wouldn`t be surprised, if equally profitable+ you need a good base for those, can`t really do anything from a bad chassis with outdated equipment. Toyota for instance is struggling with its R5 project because there is no suitable engine available.
Old customers are still supported for a long timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
guys the most money are from servicing,not from car new sales.
It always is, but to service something, you have to have a good product to sell in the first place.
If Ford pull the plug again after the end of the season (likely) and M-Sport only have a choice of non-winning pay driver's, those driving for free & loanees, I can really see M.Wilson having every reason to pull out of the WRC.
If Ogier should win the 2018 WDC then going out (on a high) would probably be even more likely.
The achievements of 2017 ('18?) could never be repeated anyway and certainly not without proper Manu and sponsorship backing.
I'm really starting to fear the worst.
why ? he doesn't like money ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC