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Dad Alen is strongly conected to fiat and that's why son is in punto..
And WHY spend own money , if FIAT is free....Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
But maybe it was better to spend a bit more that what is going on now :D
im not trying to convince anything, but i know there was an other possibility, not a wrc deal, but a deal where he could have driven other events of own choise as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
It's not for free..
Subaru will not be back to WRC for a while, because they have the ambition to be a big player in the Dakar rally in the near future having big names in the team. They started this year in the Sertoes Rally in Brasil, and will be present in the 201 Dakar with the Forrester, built by Barrattero, and driven in the by Gabriel Pozzo (2001 GrN champion) and Yoshiu Ikemachi.
You're probably right from the linguistic point of view. But, as I think, in rallying word "evolution" has long stood for "generation" meaning. It's not a correct English, as you see, but "evolution" has a better psychological effect, because it means progress, movement forward, while "generation" is some kind of stagnation, and it's not the right word to describe rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverleaf
Skoda and Mitsu are not the only examples.
Peugeot also used "Evo" for distinguishing modifications of both the 206 and the 307. The original 307, which debuted in 2004, was Evo1, and the upgraded version was called Evo2. Rally-raid teams also tend to use this method of calling their competition vehicles.
I wonder how fast would be any finnish driver at the end of season in WRC ifQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
they had 50% tarmac and 50% gravel in calendar?
"how fast or where ?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarac330d
If....
Depends on if the non tarmac rallies are Finland like typical surfaces with a bunch'o Swedish, Norway like winter events.
Otherwise a few points ahead of Sordo if not on par with the Spaniard and say, 15 points behind Loeb, without crashing out once in a while in a 12 events calender.
Not much change for the rest of the field except for Henning... ;)
According to Finnish MTV3 News Marcus Grönholm would make a comeback-of-sorts next year. Grönholm have comfirmed that he have negotiated with Wilson Sr about driving some rallies - but not all - with Ford. Sweden being the first option now.
Grönholm will drive at Solbergs Motorshow, Monza Rally and Bologna Motor Show before the end of the year.
Please take in consideration MTV3 News (at least rally news) are more over the top than rather facts only, so the truth behind this story could be that there's nothing new on Bosse constantly changing mind.
Somehow the buzz around Grönholm is getting annoyingly big proportions - or at least the frequency of Bosse on/ Bosse off news is reaching the limit that he seem to transform more into a PR act than a living rally legend. What's the profit - he does not have a team to run. I'd love to see him drive, I believe he still got it, but please make up your mind, Marcus!
Marcus would bring a much needed boost to the start of next season. Even if he only does a few rallies.
MTV3 News are screaming on hi revs today: Now they're telling that Kimi Räikkönen is negotiating a full-season factory seat at Citroën with Red Bull offering double the money they're paying Loeb. Oh the marketing value... And if Kimi's F1 career would go on, he'd be driving some WRC rounds with PSWRT. And PSWRT still isn't sure whether it's Citroën or Ford Petter will be driving...
And the prize for the craziest rumour goes to MTV3!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
But hey - - - it's "according to reliable sources"... ;-) Though, I wouldn't mind being proven wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
Petter confirmed on the radio the other week that he was in talks with Kimi and Grönholm...
It would be very cool! =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
What do they expect? Kimi beating Loeb with Loeb's car?Quote:
double the money they're paying Loeb!
Raikonen is skipping F1 for 2010, so all options are open for his real passion:rally. So maybe first Monte Carlo in his Punto S2000 and then the WRC with Citroen or Ford
I really hope we will see Kimi A LOT in next years Wrc.
This does a lot PR for the sport. People can agrue that this is not good PR since it's not representing the rally we so dearly wants to see. But since this seem to be inpossible to reach for the moment, this is a great way of getting more people to watch the sport and coverage!
Is it just me or could the 2010 WRC actually have some interesting names to keep an eye on?
Disregarding whether or not the competition is good or not, but with the possible addition of Raikonen and Block (c'mon, you know your gonna like watching him drive) we might be on the way back to the PR days of the late 90's with McRae/Makinen/Burns/Sainz each with huge followings from their respective an bases.
I wish it happened, it may bring some interest to the championship.
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double the money they're paying Loeb!
No. Selling double the cars which Loeb makes them sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverleaf
By the way which money they're talking about?Quote:
double the money they're paying Loeb!
Is it the money which is paid to Loeb by Redbull
On the story it said that "Red Bull has offered Kimi twice the pay Loeb is getting", but isn't indicating directly are they talking about Loeb/Red Bull deal or all the income Loeb's rumoured to have. However, since yesterday this story has gotten to whole different heights - and judging by the pure commercial value Kimi would be the biggest name in WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverleaf
mtv3 just showed an interview with malcolm wilson, he confirmed that they try to put together a few rallies program with bosse starting from sweden.
Yiiipppeeeee!!!! This is getting better and better!! :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
lol, true, now its just to get the ex. over priced fiat's driver to do the tarmac roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Alen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Räikkönen ;)
Finnish MTV3 reports that Malcolm Wilson is planning to make Mikko a clear first driver in the 2010 season, leaving JML as a second driver. Even before the season starts. Cars will be identical but all decisions will favour Mikko. This isn't 100% sure yet though, Malcolm wants to discuss with both drivers in January.
I can't express how deeply lugubrious I am. This decision is a blow against my - and all other people supporting JML - face. After this terrible season I was so eager to see JM fighting for the victories. He would have been mentally ready more than ever before. But no. Most likely he will not be allowed to win.
I honestly believe this will just cause more trouble to JM. He will make mistakes and lose valuable points. JM is not a guy who you leave to bring those sure points home. JM is a driver who lives for winning. He needs to get to the attack groove. Malcolm, please, do not do this.
I can't remember when I would have felt more doleful over rally.
On paper it does look bad, but the scenario only really came up once this season, and had they stepped in Mikko could be champion now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
I dont really think it will be a problem for one reason. Sebastien Loeb. Because on the few occasions a Ford driver is fastest, you can pretty much bet Seb will be splitting the Fords. Where I see this being implemented is not going to be at the expense of a victory for Jar-Matti, but to swap around podium positions when they are second and third.
If Jari can make enough pace on leg one he can get himself into the position for a win still IMO. Also if Mikko has a bad start to the season then this will be out of the window anyway.
I honestly dont see a time where (barring retirements) both Finn's will be ahead of Seb going into the final leg. JML has to improve significantly for this to happen.
Whereas I share Juha's distress on the matter, like Simmi mentioned, before being allowed to win you must be able to win.
However, as this matter now comes up pre-season and Sweden being the season opener, it's good to think and discuss this beforehand rather than at the end of leg 2 in Sweden JML 30 sec ahead of Mikko... *woke up and found myself at work*
Although I agree that this is rather crappy, the blame lies with Citroen not Ford. Citroen made it obvious this year that they'll make all their drivers surrender a win to Seb. If Ford refuses to do the same, Mikko will have basically no chance at the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
We saw this year how team orders made Seb world champion. It isn't fair to Mikko to deny him the same opportunity.
So while I'd much prefer neither team doing this, if one does it then they both should.
I dont think you can blame either one Citroen or Ford, when it comes to credit they both do what it takes to win the title, good desition from Wilson, now J-M knows his place and what the team is expecting, for sure.
Latvala to do only tarmac events.. lol
ISC and Mr Chandler down, Eurosport rules..
I have been thinking of asking this question for a while now. I feel kibnd of ignorant but i cant resist in anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Who the is this Mr Chandler guy that everybody is talking about?
NZ man doing rally stuff for FIA (and more for ISC)..
Marcus news.. http://planetemarcus.free.fr/saison2010.htm
hope .. right decision soon..
Janne Tuohino will drive 7 rallies in WRC/S2000 Cup next season with Fiesta S2000. It's a private team but car is M-sport built.