Rally Sweden 2014

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Inexcusable? Lost what? He has three Polos ahead, which are better cars at the moment. He was on one stage faster than Ogier. Please, what do you expect from him? :dork:[/quote]


I dont know.....Maybe, I expect him to be fighting for the victory since he was doing that in Sweden many years ago.

Much rather see the car given to someone else.[/quote]

The fight has not even begun. Wait until tomorrow. And of course Saturday finish. Then we´ll talk ...

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

He has three Polos ahead, which are better cars at the moment.

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I don't want to judge Hirvonen but I really don't like this kind of excuses. When he was in Fiesta he was in worse car than Loeb but when he moved to same car as Loeb he was even slower than with Fiesta. When he moved to Fiesta he is again in worse car - this time than Ogier but Latvala was faster with Fiesta than with Polo. Cars don't win alone, it's the combination of car and driver. Some work better some worse but saying that the car of the one who is currently wining must be better is too much simplified and moreover quite depreciating to abilities of the wining driver.

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Alright,I still think Polos have most powerful engine and maybe best suspension/chassis, at the moment. Sweden is the rally that such things are the difference between the fastest guys. But let´s leave that.

However Hirvonen so far is the best of the rest and still he "lost it", "should leave his seat" to a slower driver etz, etz. How silly it sounds.

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

However Hirvonen so far is the best of the rest and still he "lost it", "should leave his seat" to a slower driver etz, etz. How silly it sounds.

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So is Tanak driving a VW ?? :rolleyes: And he hasnt driven a WRC for a year...

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Alright,I still think Polos have most powerful engine and maybe best suspension/chassis, at the moment. Sweden is the rally that such things are the difference between the fastest guys. But let´s leave that.

However Hirvonen so far is the best of the rest and still he "lost it", "should leave his seat" to a slower driver etz, etz. How silly it sounds.

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I agree with Your statement about Hirvonen although You forgot Tänak who is ahead of him ;)

Presume daylight is fading fast in Sweden?

Hanninen near off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKwlHHnK ... e=youtu.be

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Could be an Ogier tactic though...

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Yes, I think after France last year, he likes to lose first day :D

Any info on why Hänninen lost so much to Neuville on 5&6, as they were pretty eqal on 1-4?

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Presume daylight is fading fast in Sweden?

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SS7 should be night stage.

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He has three Polos ahead, which are better cars at the moment.

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I don't want to judge Hirvonen but I really don't like this kind of excuses. When he was in Fiesta he was in worse car than Loeb but when he moved to same car as Loeb he was even slower than with Fiesta. When he moved to Fiesta he is again in worse car - this time than Ogier but Latvala was faster with Fiesta than with Polo. Cars don't win alone, it's the combination of car and driver. Some work better some worse but saying that the car of the one who is currently wining must be better is too much simplified and moreover quite depreciating to abilities of the wining driver.

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Alright,I still think Polos have most powerful engine and maybe best suspension/chassis, at the moment. Sweden is the rally that such things are the difference between the fastest guys. But let´s leave that.

However Hirvonen so far is the best of the rest and still he "lost it", "should leave his seat" to a slower driver etz, etz. How silly it sounds.

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Exactly right, when did "best of the rest" was enough for Hirvonnen?!