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Because he turned out to be a total disappointment who, apart from catching the coat-tails of the previous Ferrari era for his championship success (a championship he was lucky to win) did nothing to carry on the legacy that was left for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
At least with Alonso the Tifosi will know that their man wants success and is working towards that, even if it doesn't come.
Because they are not fans. They are idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
What?! The man isn't a super hero.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
Kimi can't drive an under-performing car and win a title.
If Kimi had won the championship this year Ferrari would have still replaced him with Alonso. Satander was just throwing money into the face of Ferrari's upper echelon, of course they were going to take it by the bucket loads.
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Originally Posted by JRodrigues
The tifosi amaze me in their atitiudes - which is an extension of that of the Ferrari team and attitudes which I disapprove of.
The rubbishing of Raikkonen is that of a team of ingrates that refuse to understand the driver that they have [once again - just get Niki Lauda onto the subject of Ferrari...] discarded.
The F60 was rubbish from day 1 and there is nothing to suggest that Ferrari is going to produce a car able to beat Red Bull, Mclaren or Mercedes in 2010.
Back to Kimi - he is a driver we know that has immense ability and could have won more grands prix and titles rather that a title during his career. It has always been the teams that have let him down generally.
At the two circuits that more than any other require driver input he showed that he has not changed - he is just a driver sick and tired of dealing with a crap car and fighting for fourth when in fifth - knowing that that was its maximum.
Thats Kimi. And Ferrari making him the scapegoat for its major flaws and for not being "one of the team" is the usual disgraceful Scuderia behavior.
That he in the last few races of 2010 preferred the company of the Mclaren team is an indictment of the Ferrari clique.
But at Monte Carlo and Spa he showed how bad the F60 was and that the difference was simply Kimi.
He is a driver of ironclad self-esteem and he leaves Ferrari as the driver that won them a championship. And unlike Massa who has to WORK to keep up with Kimi, has never seen the need to bad mouth or insult anyone or team.
Just watch what happens if Alonso has a "bad day at the office" and what happens if he turns any wrath towards his delicate little teammate.
It is also a disgrace and a condemnation that F1 has allowed Raikkonen to walk away so easily from f1.
Mercedes should have fought and acquiesced to keep him and agree to his demands. He is not the first and will not be the last great driver to something of a diva - but so what?
WE have all lost - and how will everyone that loves this greatest of sports not reflect quietly at both Spa and Monaco in 2010, that without Kimi the winners of these foundations of grand pix racing are less.
Not sure why you started this debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
As far as I'm concerned I've been complaining about Kimi since last season and I did criticize him for his unfair move in Spa too.
I'll remind gloomyDAY, JRodrigo and the self proclaimed holly ghost that this thread is not for them to post in.
If you want to badmouth us Ferrari fans than please start your own trash thread.
Spa 2008? You mean when Kimi pinched Hamilton? Yeah, that was a pretty sweet move. Hamilton had to cut the chicane or slam into Kimi. Yet, Hamilton still got robbed of his win.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I'm not sure why you would complain. Kimi spun on a wet track trying to get to the top of the podium. It was a battle of titans up until the end.
I'm not badmouthing anyone. I just thought JR's quip was funny. What I am doing is questioning the mentality of some "fans". What if Alonso fails to win the championship next year? Throw him under the bus. It's his fault too!Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Ioan, what makes me chuckle is that you'll be rooting for Alonso. Never thought I'd see the day.
Spa 2009, he overtook cars outside the track, the same reason Hamilton was given a penalty last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
Weird definition of funny. I'd rather not say what I think of JRodriguez quips, he might fell the need to buy himself a rope.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
Start your bash thread, this one was started by Ferrari fans for Ferrari fans in order to have a place without such gibberish like JRodriguez above remark.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
Or you think that it's right to question other people's mentality while posting provocative quips?
Let's wait and see. Jumping the gun isn't very smart.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
I don't care who drives the red cars as long as he fights for the best possible results.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
I don't believe that for one second.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
You were giggling when Heidfeld crushed Alonso's wing at Monaco.
It is kind of funny but anyone that can't beat Massa as a teammate is deemed a step slow!! uhmmmmmm could it be that Massa is pretty damn fast?