Hamilton Stripped of Win - Official

Saying all Italians stick together is as daft as saying all Brits are McLaren kissin Max hatin Lewis lovers.

Now, the other way of looking at it is two current drivers say boooo cheat and two ex drivers say support the innocent

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Originally Posted by ioan

My opinion is that the stewards didn't act in the right way, and I can't judge it any more than this because I don't have the data. I refer you to my previous posts, starting with the very first page of this thread. You'll see that I never said that Hamilton was guilty and rightly punished!

So, what exactly should my opinion be if it was a Ferrari driver? :p :

You see, you are judging me without knowing the facts first! ;)

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Not at all — I was merely asking a question. However, I do take your point. :up:

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Originally Posted by TMorel

Saying all Italians stick together is as daft as saying all Brits are McLaren kissin Max hatin Lewis lovers.

Now, the other way of looking at it is two current drivers say boooo cheat and two ex drivers say support the innocent

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I would be interested in understanding why he said this as a racing driver but he's entitled to his opinion as is NL, RS and Sterling Moss.

Massa echoes what Trulli allready said. Don't you think these professional now a bit better than all the conspiracy theorists here???

Massa:

Incidents like this have often been discussed in the official driver briefings, when it has been made absolutely clear that anyone cutting a chicane has to fully restore the position and also any other eventual advantage gained. If Lewis had taken the chicane correctly, he would never have been able to pass Kimi on the very short straight that follows it. That was my immediate opinion after seeing the replay.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

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I would be interested in understanding why he said this as a racing driver...

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He said that because he's a racing driver :p :

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Originally Posted by driveace

Oh and Jarno has an opinion too ! Is Jarno trulli Italian ? is Ferrari Italian? Lets all stick together.Just whereabouts was Jarno when this happened OR did he see it just the same as us all on film
Ralph says its wrong,Niki says its wrong,and they are not italian ,so therefore not biassed

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It's not only the Italians, it's us the Finns too. There was a poll in a popular Finnish tabloid and about 75% (11 000 answers) thought it was right to penalise Hamilton.

I don't know if you guys have heard the latest. According to Whitmarsh McLAren had asked the stewards TWICE if Lewis had passed Kimi correctly or not and they were told TWICE that yes, he had. Whitmarsh continues saying that if they had been told "no" they would have asked Lewis to let Kimi pass by. So, I don't know what to make of this. However, if that's true all those of you that accused Ferrari to have "links" with the FIA should apologize to Ferrari and to US (Ferrari fans). If true, of course.

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Originally Posted by driveace

Oh and Jarno has an opinion too ! Is Jarno trulli Italian ? is Ferrari Italian?

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:laugh:
I just knew someone will say something like this!
Hamilton fanatics are way to predictable, just like him! :rotflmao:

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Originally Posted by mstillhere

I don't know if you guys have heard the latest. According to Whitmarsh McLAren had asked the stewards TWICE if Lewis had passed Kimi correctly or not and they were told TWICE that yes, he had. Whitmarsh continues saying that if they had been told "no" they would have asked Lewis to let Kimi pass by. So, I don't know what to make of this. However, if that's true all those of you that accused Ferrari to have "links" with the FIA should apologize to Ferrari and to US (Ferrari fans). If true, of course.

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I'm willing to give Hamilton the benefit of doubt, but no way I would do the same with any of the McLaren bosses.
I saw last year that they will go very very low and deep trying to influence the public opinion by using false information. :down:

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Originally Posted by mstillhere

I don't know if you guys have heard the latest. According to Whitmarsh McLAren had asked the stewards TWICE if Lewis had passed Kimi correctly or not and they were told TWICE that yes, he had. Whitmarsh continues saying that if they had been told "no" they would have asked Lewis to let Kimi pass by. So, I don't know what to make of this. However, if that's true all those of you that accused Ferrari to have "links" with the FIA should apologize to Ferrari and to US (Ferrari fans). If true, of course.

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The actual quote, as your paraphrase is very misleading.

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Martin Whitmarsh added: "From the pit wall, we then asked Race Control to confirm that they were comfortable that Lewis had allowed Kimi to repass, and they confirmed twice that they believed that the position had been given back in a manner that was 'okay'.

"If Race Control had instead expressed any concern regarding Lewis’s actions at that time, we would have instructed Lewis to allow Kimi to repass for a second time."

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