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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

Likewise the development of diesel engines means that they're getting much more fun to drive, you just have to drive it in a different way.

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They're better, but I still don't think they're properly fun to drive.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

They're better, but I still don't think they're properly fun to drive.

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But then you have to weigh up the money saved against the extra fun you can get from a petol. And as time goes by the fun that you're able to have is only going to diminish as roads become busier and speed limits stricter.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

But then you have to weigh up the money saved against the extra fun you can get from a petol. And as time goes by the fun that you're able to have is only going to diminish as roads become busier and speed limits stricter.

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I don't buy the whole busier roads and stricter speed limits bs. Speeding enforcement here is very lax compared to back in Australia. In the 5 years I was driving in Australia I got 4 speeding fines and 1 point on my licence. Been in the UK for 5 years and have probably done 2 or 3 times the mileage I did in Australia in that time and no fines, just being pulled over once I've been here and to be fair what i was doing did look suspicious.

Plenty of roads to have fun on as well :)

Meant to say as well that with the Euro V emissions standards and the ones coming in the future, diesels will be handicapped more than petrols. You'd be surprised at the consumption figures modern turbocharged engines are doing ;)

Watch this space with regard to speeding. I wasn't saying it's bad now, but it's definitely getting worse. I also appreciate that other countries are much stricter, I've just come back from Ontario where (if you're over 50km/h over the limit) you get a $10,000 fine, road side license suspension and road side vehicle conviscation. It's only a matter of time before we get that kind of thing being introduced over here.

And with respect you're hardly placed to talk about busier roads, 5 years isn't really that long to spend in a country and judge what the traffic is like. I'm more going by what my old man says. He used to drive pretty enthusiastically back in the mid to late 70s and he now says that it's a long way from what it used to be. He even drives a lot slower than he did 10 years ago because he says that there is so much risk with the rise in traffic numbers. Feel free to produce some statistics that prove him wrong though.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

Watch this space with regard to speeding. I wasn't saying it's bad now, but it's definitely getting worse. I also appreciate that other countries are much stricter, I've just come back from Ontario where (if you're over 50km/h over the limit) you get a $10,000 fine, road side license suspension and road side vehicle conviscation. It's only a matter of time before we get that kind of thing being introduced over here.

And with respect you're hardly placed to talk about busier roads, 5 years isn't really that long to spend in a country and judge what the traffic is like. I'm more going by what my old man says. He used to drive pretty enthusiastically back in the mid to late 70s and he now says that it's a long way from what it used to be. He even drives a lot slower than he did 10 years ago because he says that there is so much risk with the rise in traffic numbers. Feel free to produce some statistics that prove him wrong though.

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When I'm talking about busy roads I'm saying that if you try you can find some nice quiet roads.

With regards to speeding, if anything it's getting better, loads of counties are scrapping their speed camera schemes.

Speeding?!
Is it speeding doing 90 km/h where there are no restrictions even though the car in front is only doing 50 while it's driver holds tight to his steering wheel in each turn?
If yes then I am doing a lot of it, still I've never got a fine for my driving habits.
You can get a lot of pleasure from driving fast if you do it properly.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Regarding Top Gear itself, last night's episode was one of the dullest I've watched. The Jensen piece was pointless, Saint Bob was mildly amusing, Jean Alesi was wasted, and the demolition challenge was just boring.

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I really enjoyed the first half/two-thirds

The Jensen was terrific. Not the stereotypical Jezza review considering its an updated muscle car.

The Intercepters would make a brilliant tv show, even if it would be an Austin Powers rip-off.

This series/season has been rather good, the consistency is a bit better.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

F*** me, if I had 70k burning a hole in my pocket I'd rather knock it all on one of these Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV Bertone for sale, classic cars for sale uk (Car: 141870) than to chuck it on the GT-R.

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Lovely car but as already mentioned thats a steep price for the model, and it isn't even the 1750GTV...

Now if I had 70k in my pocket I'd buy one of these:

2003 HONDA VTR 1000 SP2 | eBay

for 6k, spend another k or so returning it back to original spec. There, I've already got something quicker than a GTR for a tenth of the price.

Then I'd have one of these please:

Richard Thorne Classic Cars » Lancia & Classics

A series 1 for 12k. Something I've always wanted.

Now for some waft. Can't make my mind up between these two:

Richard Thorne Classic Cars » Lancia & Classics
French Classics | Citroen DS, Citroen HY Vans for Sale

Though I'd prefer a semiautomatic for the Citroen. I'll probably go for the DS because I don't want two Lancias.

So thats 36k or so I think. What to do with the rest of my money? I think I'll press the boring button and go for one of these:

Ducati Multistrada 1200

for everyday which should take me up to 50k.

And with the rest? Think I'll go for a bloody nice holiday.

All for the price of a GTR....

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Originally Posted by Daniel

35k miles in 15 years is exceptional. Caroline's car is more typical at 17 years and 220k miles.

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Probably about time she got a new car ;)