Honest? Please point out what of what i did say is not correct? After we can talk who is honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
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Honest? Please point out what of what i did say is not correct? After we can talk who is honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
You are assuming Anton is a fast driver. Which is, unfortunately, wrong.
Im assuming nothing, i just tell a few facts, and hope he will get out of the deal one way or another, so he could get back on track, so he dont have to be on somebody elses mercy in the most important time in learning to drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Ok let's wait until he gets a 207 or a Fabia and pwn everybody, then you'll be right ^^
I would put my 2 cents on Hanninen, if it has to be necessarily finnish ... xD
Dont know what you are talking about, Im still waiting to hear what was untrue in the statements, when you go personal and attack someone by calling dishonest, you should say atleast about what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Tomi, you are all too quick to jump down the throat of any foreign driver who complains, yet when the boot is on the other foot..
I have no doubt there is some truth in what you say, but at the same time Anton probably would have been given more events (on asphalt) if he had exhibited any kind of pace there, but this year he wasn't even very quick or reliable on gravel. Look at the kind of fast progress that Hanninen made on asphalt in comparison.
You dont seem to understand, im complaining the Alen's for doing the most stupid deal ever, like i did already from the start, as far as i know they are Finnish, so whats the problem?.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Compairing Hänninen and Alen is not relevant in any way, because Alen had other options too when he signed with Fiat
GREAT NEWS !!!
Gigi will do 8 events in 2010 in C4 !
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/top/top...-c4/index.html
Here Tomi, you are absolutely correct, this is possible the stupids deal ever...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
BUT maybe the easiest and like this dad did not have to pay anything, if he went a different way he has to find budget.
On the other hand, now he has to start over again.
Just my 2cents, I too am not convinced of his (Alen jr) his speed
Plans to do 8 events, Stevie :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieWonder
Yes, but what is a deal worth if you get no test and drives, even you get paid? At this phase in carreer, absolutely nothing, you know that for sure, if anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProRally
Like I said, back then they had other options too, that would have left them self in charge of the future.
Well I have followed Alen a little. And must say that he is better driver than most of the people can imagine. He has a crap car and no testing. But have you seen his commitment on stages? I have, and it looks good. Fiat is not the car to compare on gravel and without testing... I have seen drivers who were quite fast with GrN car and then they did some testing with Punto and rally and they were slower with S2000. That is not normal.
Anyway, it is news and rumors section, please continue your arguing somewhere else.
I think Alen has more talent than most give him credit for. It's the car and the deal that has hurt his career, not the man's ability behind the wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
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Originally Posted by Koppomsbo
"Ett tvåbilsteam med Marcus skulle kunna vara mycket kul.A tvåbilsteam with Marcus would be much fun!"
:D
Great translation by Google. Green Holm!
some pictures of fabia s2000 evo II:
http://www.sport5.cz/content/view/4939/351/
WOW you can actually see a difference!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by chryby
Well it is notably wider
Why do they call it Evo II? Is there an Evo I ?Quote:
Originally Posted by chryby
Well, I guess they call it Evo II because it is the second evolution of the car... Surprisingly... *insert a picture of Captain Obvious here*Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverleaf
Has there already been an evolution of the original Fabia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...ons/icon14.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
Ps. I never called "dishonest" anybody, Tomi. Don't do that again, I don't like it, thanks.
Anton Allen is one of many very talented young Finnish drivers, unfortunately, no more than that. He has underperformed in IRC and you can debate the reasons for that forever. I'd have to say I was frankly amazed that Raikonnen got into a sister car in Finland and outperformed Allen. My best memory of Allen is the group N battle between him and Flodin in NORF 2006. They were incredibly evenly matched and the battle went down to the wire. I rate Flodin very highly and would put Allen no higher than him in terms if potential. My bet is Nikkara will be the next flying Fin, and Allen will slowly fade to join the likes of Tuohino and Passonen as could have beens.
Alen was 1:32 in front before Raikkonen went offQuote:
Originally Posted by Rally_Rocks
Well, this is sort of a finnish way here in the forum since nobody else cannot drive fast. Loeb is born somewhere in another planet, so the fastest guy on planet Earth actually is a finn. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
I'm talking about performance and not result. Raikkonen on the second pass, once he got going, was easily a match for Allen
No, you said be honest for once, that mean the same, im still waiting what in that what i wrote was not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
I know I'm being pedantic about this but I guess it's been "numbered" in the same way as the Lancer Evo's... We're now onto the Evo10 but it's only the 9th "upgrade" from the orginal Lancer...Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Would be cool to see Alen Jr in a 207 or a Fabia, just to see how far behind the Abarth has come.
The only ones that has been able to set competitive times in the Abarth this year is Basso and Rossetti, and I think that is more due to the driver than the car.....
Abarth need to do some real upgrades for 2010 !
Or a WRCar in Sweden maybe ??
Basso and Rossetti had decent exibitions in some rallies, because they were driving a works car. Since the Punto S1600 that the Abarth cars are the only ones who are competitive. All the private cars (with material from Abarth) are very far from it.
The first evo is named as "Lancer Evoultion", the evolution of the standart Lancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmith16
That is different.
There is the first incarnation of Fabia S2000, which is called "fabia s2000". If there is an evolved version of the first incarnation you call it Fabia S2000 Evoultion. If there is an evolved version of the evolved version you call it Evolution 2,.....
That is the best way of taking yourself out of business. The things you sell need to be same spec as the factory, or very close !Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
You are defending the undefendable. Alen will not ever be a winner and you still find every excuse to make him appear a better driver than he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
And no, that didn't mean what you want to mean (because you only wanted to flame with me). Everybody understood the sense of that phrase, except you (on purpose).
Don t think that Allen is something special in terms of speed.
All we have see from him in norf or russia is when the rally lacked of competitors.When there are other s2000 in the rally no speed at all from him.
Something they have do plenty of times at 2009 Rox and Basso with same car-team.About the not so much testing,ok maybe there is something like that,but the differences with other fiats were big,and i can t believe that this is the reason for his slow times.
Lets see in 2010 who is right.
In the group of young flying finns i would easily put Hanninen,Ketooma,Nikkara way forward than him.
Could you stop the guessing and consentrate on what i wrote instead, if you want to reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
I have never ever said he will be a winner, I dont defend him in any way either, Alen's self made the mistake to sign with fiat, what i said is that he should get rid of his contract, that takes him nowhere, no testing and no driving is not good if want to be a rally driver, is that so difficult to understand?
I rather think it was IRC with Fiat, or drive round and round Finland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
A driver will get more testing.. if their setup improves the stop watch.
Even if he does get another chance, he seems to be a one trick pony... fast gravel.
Really? from where did you get this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
Money.. or the nessesity of it.. to do anything other than drive a Fiat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
I suppose you are going to try and convince us that he turned down a "WRC manufacturer 'JML' works-type seat" with MSport?
Ketomaa is already 30 years, not so young.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii