Who said anything about designing? Just told you what sound I heard. If you´d worked 16,5 years you´d know what I meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by adr17
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Who said anything about designing? Just told you what sound I heard. If you´d worked 16,5 years you´d know what I meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by adr17
So M-Sport didn't announce this week after all.. looks like they could provide the most interesting aspect of the drivers market this year.
Any news about Abbring's outings next year?
I think Neuville's contract extention at Hyundai has been pretty bad news for him...Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
Any chance they'll sign someone capable of winning, or will they continue with the current policy of securing 7th and 8th on every rally?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
M-sport gives the cars to the highest bidder.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Winners prefer to get paid.
It seems that Ostberg has no agreement with MSport for the moment. Camilli and Tanak has tested with the '17 car no footage yet of Slowberg.
Lucky to Ford WRC2 team? For me that would be a most natural and spectacular move from MW.
He is spectacular driver but he has made spectacular crashes aswell ;) would be nice to see him drive wrc2. Wrc need personalities like lucky.
I think he would be better of with R5 in WRC2 and some WRC outings next year. And even with Neuville gone, I don't think he would've been the 3rd driver next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Neuville, Breen and Lefebvre all have 2 year deals, so is there any drivers who could move to 2018.
If Toyota (or Ford) is good, who is available for 2018 ?
All 3 VW drivers?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Certainly VW and JML could decide not to take the option on his services in 2018. Does anyone actually know how long Mikkelsen and Ogier's deals are for? They don't seem to have been publicly stated.
It could be almost all driver contracts are up at the end of 2018. Only guys I've read who have options for 2019 are Latvala and Sordo. But that means almost nothing.
VW hasn't given exact dates just hints like "multi year". Going on how they announced in 2014 that they are extending their participation to 2019 (was until 2015 initially) I'd expect Ogier and maybe Mikkelsen have deals or options until then. That's just me speculating but if I was deciding at VW that's what I would try to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
WRC - THE 2017 WORLD RALLY CAR - ON BOARD WITH SAFETY
http://www.fia.com/news/wrc-2017-wor...r-board-safety
In Motorsport News today Michel Nandan says he would like to keep Kevin Abbring next year - primarily as a test driver.
But he's aware that Abbring wants to do more rallies. So if nothing else it seems that Hyundai will still aim to retain four drivers on their books.
In other news they are saying that the China round will likely be held back until 2018. They again say rumours are there wasn't too much wrong with the roads this year and it wasn't enough reason for cancellation.
There are also quotes from Ogier and Matton expressing doubts about whether the WRC should be in Turkey.
Also Malcolm Wilson is calling for the current road running order to remain the same...
Any more on that China Rally story ?
Yeah sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
The story says the rally will be postponed until 2018 according to MN sources.
One source in China said that they drove the entire rally route this year and only two places would have caused a problem. And one of those could be fixed easily.
So basically it was the local organiser's decision to cancel and it seems that the area doesn't want the rally. Which is all stuff we've heard before. But the article doesn't mention the lack of funding which was heavily rumoured as the real reason the rally didn't happen.
Matton quoted as saying he wants a sustainable rally in China. So not one that will run once and then disappear. And he says there is no need to rush - which is a bit rich given the ultimatums Citroen seemed to give about going to China.
more about the new m-sport car?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cuj3FyXW8AAAKPW.jpg
Didn't find out too much about the new car apart from M-Sport are very confident in it. David Evans sat in with Matt Wilson on a recent test. They were able to try some stuff on an existing car with a big restrictor in testing before creating the mule which ran before Finland.
first clues on 2017 Rally Portugal itinerary https://twitter.com/_D10M_/status/78...019904/photo/1
Luílhas is lovely stage... fast sections, harpins, rocks.... fantastic choice. Love Confurco in Fafe, but i will go to Luílhas on Sunday.
Itinerary Portugal 2017 ➡️ http://bit.ly/2dYuLSR
Report from @TheDDuran of more than one option for @MadsOstberg in 2017. The Norwegian expects to confirm plans before Rally Australia.. https://t.co/Lm8iO5CYwE
Presumably that's 2 optionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
a) Carry on in Vulture mode picking up the occasional top 5. Or
b) Give up and find a new past time!
Michelin remain in the WRC for the next 3 years.
Reading between the lines I think this puts an end to any stupid control tyre talk - http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/octob...7--12-12-.html
He's not deliberately doing a)... he's going as fast as he can, it's just the others are now faster...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
And why should he do b)... if he gets a chance to carry on in WRC, wouldn't we all do that given the chance ? And he's still quicker than the WRC privateers like Prokop, Bertelli etc.
No, Some of us have a thing called "self respect", look it up in the dictionary to find its meaning because i doubt with your mindset will ever be able to figure out its purpose in life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Julian Porter has just interviewed Mads several times in Spain and indicated there were some 'very, very, interesting possibilities' for him in 2017.
That must surely mean a chance in a Toyota, as continuing at M-Sport couldnt be classed like that...
Yeah from what he said all make think to Toyota...so in case 3 cars: hanninen,Ostberg,Lappi?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I imagine the two Finns would mostly be faster than Ostberg across the season but he would probably score more points than both.Quote:
Originally Posted by BicioWrc
Not a bad move for either side maybe.
If as i think contract is for one year, yeah could be good move. u have consistent driver, with big experience and he can maybe help also to development car (also if i never heard he have so great skill in this sector)...after for 2018 their could look for someone elseQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
Why not Evans instead of Ostberg?Quote:
Originally Posted by BicioWrc
Not because they just might succeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Didn't get it. Can you explain?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Evans is very good and ambitious driver, so they would profit. But may be they cold prefer someone else for whatever reason. Sorry can't explain it well cause I might have a headache thinking too much about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
PS: I'm in general disappointed by Toyota's driver choice so far (if that helps), but who knows, we might be surprised in near future?!?
If I'm in makinen i will go 100% with Evans in front of Ostberg...sensation is that drivers look to toyota as 5th option and have less consideration of m-sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
So is possible that choise of Ostberg was only way for Makinen to take a Wrc driver with some years of experience in wrc. (my dream of course was to see Luky in an official wrc car but this will remain a dream)
We will need some more insider infos about which drivers toyota made offers and expecially opinions of drivers about toyota project. also if looking what's happening we can already suppose:)
I think he means that in his opinion Toyota have made poor choices so far and Evans would be a good choice so they didn't take him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
The only reason I can think of is that he is expecting the other two drivers to be fast and relying on Ostberg to finish rallies. Lately there are more good drivers around so he can't get the results he used to through consistency but he's not as bad as some claim. If there were less factory seats next year he might have had a harder time finding a place but at the moment I think he still has 1-2 years until enough new drivers come up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BicioWrc
I think Ford will be back as a manufacturer next year, with full support of M-Sport. Everyone around the team is speaking about a "very strong team". They can't say more right now, but still want us to begin thinking and wondering. Just the fact that the new car is built on a totally new model of Fiesta that isn't released yet, is one of the things speaking for it.