rest in peace to Todd Gibson's son Terry who died in a racing accident at Toledo Speedway this past week...
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rest in peace to Todd Gibson's son Terry who died in a racing accident at Toledo Speedway this past week...
You Are Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
Your Turn.
Thoughts and Prayers go to Todd Gibson and Family on their lost.
Rest In Peace Terry Gibson.
here's the latest. the usual please....
Driver- Al Miller
Year- 1969
Car- Glen Bryant - Allison Turbine
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway
The car did not qualify.
Phoenix has it!! the driver may also be Jim McElreath - can't really tell from the photo since it is so small - sorry about that.....
Definitely a true original as far as car design goes... Apparently the thing had two solid axles too...
Anyway - your turn.....
Driver, Car, Year, & Track
http://shutter03.pictures.aol.com/da...PaHpVf01C2.jpg
Wild guess: Jackie Stewart, Meacom Lola Ford, Riverside 1967Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent
Alternate: Graham Hill, Meacom Lola Ford, Riverside 1966
I cannot see the helmet clearly, although it looks more like stewart than hill's patrician nose
Hey SoCalQuote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
Correct on the Car, Track and Year. :up:
I wish I had a larger photo of this one. The Lola was a cool looking car back then.
Upon further reasearch, versus my memory, as I was there when I was in the 7th grade that year.... Driver: John Surtees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent
What a field !!! F1 greats plus Indy regulars - Gurney Clark, Andretti, Foyt, Bucknum !!!
You are Correct SoCal. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
That was truly the Golden Era for Indy Car racing. I remember when my father took me to Ontario when it opened what an amazing time the cars and drivers all had their own unique personality. It is something that I will never forget.
Your Turn.
2,200'th post of this thread:
http://transfers.mep-llc.com/files/name.that.car.5.JPG
John Mahler
1977
Eagle Offy
Indianapolis
(If i'm right, been kinda voluntarly forced to learn racing history from working at my local road course!)
Right location, keep digging on year, track and car.Quote:
Originally Posted by theblackflagger
Swede Savage
Brabham-Offy
1972
Indy
Getting closer, as discussed, Indy is correct, now add that Swede Savage is also correct, as is 1972. However that is not the stated model car in the picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexamateo
I see that the car is listed as an Eagle, but for the life of me, it just doesn't look like it. It looks like teammate Johnny Rutherford's Brabham with those brackets going foward like that. The data says it's an Eagle, but I am not 100% convinced. Anyone have any info on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
In retrospect, it is an '70 Eagle, I went to the Indy 500 web site and looked at the starting lineup photos, and can see that the body is different. It appears that the brackets holding the front wings are the Patrick teams way of modifying their cars.
That is not the car name quoted in the photo caption, Swede Savage did not qualify in this car, he was in the field in another car (your Eagle).Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexamateo
Did the caption say it was an Antares? Beacause that looks like the 70 Eagle with the new Antares inspired front wing Patrick Racing used on their cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
The caption on the photo says "Antares/Eagle" so to win the name that car contest the name "Antares" was required and you, Phoenix, have done that. So you are up next.
Link: http://swedesavage42.tripod.com/1972.html
"Swede sits in the #42 Antares/Eagle during practice early in May 1972. "
I think the car in the photo is the Antares described below that was not qualified.
If you look down that webpage further there is a picture of he Eagle that was qualified, it is similar but not exactly like the car in the photo.
I researched this car on Atlas F1 and found this...
"... Antares Manta. I've done a significant amountof research on these cars and what follows is a compilation from many involved with the cars. I actually own the #14 car that Roger McCluskey drove in the 1972 Indy 500 for Lindsay Hopkins, and the #42 car that Swede Savage tried to qualify that year shortly. History: The car was designed in late 71, early 72 for Pat Patrick and Lindsay Hopkins. It had a number of innovative features, some of which have been mentioned in previous posts(first F1/Indy car designed on a computer, first car fully instrumented/telemetry, first car to use composite/NASA materials, one of the first to utilize rudimentary forms of ground effects). The car featured a unique underwing at the rear of the car with a variety of vortex generators.....it worked....but created way to much drag and was abandoned....the car also featured unique water-oil coolers instead of the traditional air-oilcoolers. The original design featured a very unique rear suspension design that maintained constant camber through full wheel travel. McCluskey tried it but didn't like the way it felt and the team went back to the original design. Enough components were fabricated to build 5 cars. Of that only three were built in 1972. One for Roger McCluskey, one for his teammate Wally Dallenbach(Gilmore #10) and one for Patricks driver, Swede Savage. Limited pre-Indy testing took place with only one test at Ontario speedway. The chief mechanic for Roger M was Don Koda. After initial tests the front nose was redesigned. Lots of trouble with handling and overheating with the car ....McCluskey eventually got the car qualified and moved up into the top 5 with it before burning a valve and dropping out of the race. Dallenbach and Savage's cars got to Indy late and had limited development time and neither were able to put those cars in the show. With very public failure at Indy development stopped and the project was abandoned.
1972:
Chassis 1 McCluskey
Chassis 2 Dallenbach
Chassis 3 Savage
The official Indy results show Savage in an "Eagle". That Eagle was highly modified by using some parts of the Antares.
Next...
Nice Site and research on the Antares. The cars came back on track as the Mantra in th late 70's with a redesigned front end. But they still did not have any luck with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
Here is a photo of Swede's Antares.
http://shutter05.pictures.aol.com/da...pgqvOK01EE.jpg
Since I will be away I will pass this turn to Alexamateo. :)
I'm Back and since it is still clear here is the next photo.
Driver, Car, Year, & Track
http://shutter05.pictures.aol.com/da...rvjyJG01C6.jpg
I've seen that car recently on a different photo. It is a 85C march cosworth, team is GF Racing, track is Elkhart and the year is 1988. However on my photo the driver is Jose Carlos Romano and he has a black and red helmet, so I'm not sure about the driver.
Correct on the Car, Year and Track also the team. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by decartfan
Keep Digging.
Giupponi Franca
March 85C-Cosworth
Road America
1988
You are Correct AM. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexamateo
I have photos of both drivers testing that car in 1988. What an effort trying to compete with a 3 year old chassis when there was no freeze on development.
Your Turn.
Driver, Car, Track, year
Was this at race weekend or test, I see no car number and other cars? For Jose Carlos Romano I have photos with number 25 and without number, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexamateo
This was a test Giupponi Franca at Elkhart Lake. I also have photos of Romano's car with 25 on the engine cover and nose.Quote:
Originally Posted by decartfan
It is an 1973 STP Oil Treatment Spl., Lola chassis, Foyt Engine. It is either the twin to the #40 that Wally Dallenbach drove in '73 (a 'stellar' 33rd place) or the same car re-numbered elesewhere. There was no., #20 at Indy that year. It is not Dallebach as he has a light blue helmet, nor Johncock, also a blue helmet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexamateo
Driver- Art Pollard
Year- 1973
Car- Lola T270 - Foyt
Track- Texas World Speedway
Socal posted:
You were on the right track, but then Phoenix posted:Quote:
It is an 1973 STP Oil Treatment Spl., Lola chassis, Foyt Engine. It is either the twin to the #40 that Wally Dallenbach drove in '73 (a 'stellar' 33rd place) or the same car re-numbered elesewhere. There was no., #20 at Indy that year. It is not Dallebach as he has a light blue helmet, nor Johncock, also a blue helmet.
before I could get back to you. That is the correct answer. 1972 was the year there was no #20 at Indy. Dallenbach qualified 33rd in the #40, and Johncock was driving the #24 McLaren. Johncock won Indy in the #20 STP Eagle in 1973.Quote:
Driver- Art Pollard
Year- 1973
Car- Lola T270 - Foyt
Track- Texas World Speedway
That was a cool photo of Art Pollard's car. He drove the 20 car in 1972 at Ontario, Trenton, and Phoenix. The last race for Art before Indy was Texas in 1973 then the number and sponsorship went to the Patrick team for Indy and Art Pollard went to Fletcher Racing. 1973 was a sad year for both teams. ;(
New Photo coming up.
Drivers, Cars, Year, & Track
http://shutter04.pictures.aol.com/da...lnwKQx022E.jpg
year 1980
track Ontario (for the 500)
#66 Roger Rager Wildcat -Chevy
#34 Vern Schuppan McLaren-Cosworth
You are Correct Chris. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
Went to the spot were Turn Three use to be the other day and to my surprise part of the fence is still there. That was a Great track just built before it's time.
Your Turn.
So what is where the speedway used to be now? is the fence part of anything or just standing in the middle of a field??
Ther are office building and condos there. About 70 percent is covered by development. The fence is sitting in the middle of a lot. I am going out that way I will see if I can take a photo of it. To bad I can't find the remains of victory circle as the center was bricks from Indy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
I would hope they saved the bricks.....
The usual please....