Rally Argentina

G'morning Bluewaves.


Pentti
Do you have any suggestions regarding how certain drivers (such as Henning) could improve their slow morning starts?
Do the others do mental/physical activities to get switched on before the first stage or is it just one of those things you can't help?


Oh dear, it's this one again. Personally Corny, I think it's dangerous to compare any champion to the stars of a previous era. The sport has evolved (for better or worse) so much.
Who is to say that past great could have cut the mustard in todays short sprint races with constant media pressure and round the clock globe trotting.
Likewise we'll never know if the current crews could have handled the long drawn out battles of old.

All we know is that right now (with according to the word of certain loonytunes the help of a nationalistically biased FIA and magical mystical tyres) that Seb is kicking butt

anyway he is near to get the 5th position.. only 3sec to atkinson

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Originally Posted by Corny

He got their help, and Carlos/Colin were at the end of their career.. BTW, Carlos beated him several times on gravel during 2003..

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... you're really blind to think Loeb is not one of the greatest or maybe the best ever and to find some reasons to think something else, results do count, what can he prove more??
Marcus is riding faster than ever (and when he can't beat him he's driving for second place) but only on snow and his home rally he can beat Loeb. Gronholm beats Sainz and McRae for example 2 times clear and both Ford drivers were still in the best days of their careers!

I think someone just started the 'who is the best of all-time' debate...

I cant believe that there are so many folk out there who consistently look to criticise or doubt Loeb.

The guy is a genius - end of debate.

What he has is a very rare thing. He has has a combination of attributes that we have rarely seen before in any single rally driver.

He may not be the quickest ever, but he's not far off.
He may not be the bravest ever, but he's not far off.
He might not be the most intelligent driver we have ever seen, but i think he is.
I also think he is one of the coolest drivers under pressure that we have ever seen.

Put all these attributes together in one single talent, and you have a world beater in any era.

Stop criticising and be thankful that we are all around at time where we can appreciate and enjoy a unique and truly world class driver at the very top of his form.

By the way, I firmly believe that Loeb would be at the very top of whichever motorpsort discipline he chose to compete in. So in someways we are very lucky to have him.

Vive la France et allez Seb!!!

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Originally Posted by Rally_Rocks

So in someways we are very lucky to have him.

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I think people are frustrated at the fact that he is so dominant in the sport. The same debate went on for years about Schumacher. To put it simply, people are just tired of seeing a one man show, I think.

Havent seen all the posts on the thread but has anyone got any more info on the spectator killed on Stage 11 ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...ly/6629123.stm

"But the day's driving was overshadowed by an accident involving Argentine driver Gonzalo Alenaz, who lost control of his Subaru on stage 11 and hit a group of three spectators, killing one."

If it was poor spectator control... that coupled with the SS fiasco could spell the end for this rally in the WRC callander, What do you guys think?

It's been said it was on road section, not stage.

It seems that Citroen is even more unbeatable in high altitude stages. Hirvonen said in Mexico that their engine differencies to Citroen seems to be biggest in high altitude. Now even Sordo took clear stage win.

You see what I see?