yeah, like the minute penalty Loeb got.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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yeah, like the minute penalty Loeb got.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
No, its not corruption, but Citroen Team do know how to "bend" the rules in its favor. there is someone inside Citroen that knows the rule book by heart and when one of these situations arises (like in sweden, if you watch the video of when petter pushed Loeb, someone from the team called Elena and said it was ok to do it, he then rushed to tell petter and problem solved), they take advantage of it, whilst ford may not have such an expert, that is why they normally end up loosing out on those opportunities.
Also I dont think its the organiser's fault, they marked the road with tape as it was indicated in the roadbook and THEN the FIA delegate got down from the helicopter to remove it. I remember earlier this year in rally mexico something simmilar happened, I was close to a left hand hairpin and just before the start of the stage the FIA delegate got down from the helicopter, removed all the photographers from the hairpin and then removed all the red tape inside the hairpin. This way competitors could cut much more and exit the corner faster. (not all the drivers did it as I guess some had "dont cut" in their notes...) I would blame the FIA delegate (dont know if it was the same guy this time).
I understand it is their job the make stages safe, but they can be very very nasty to everyone involved and they feel like gods around the stages, decendig from the skies and doing whatever they want.
Fair play FIA and Citröen! Once again not a big surprise...
When VW is involved in the WRC there is now way that they are going to accept this kind of situation.
Ford is not able to handle these things, because their resources are so limited.
Ironically, last time similar thing happened with current VW official driver, He got 5 minutes penalty for not following the roadbook. This time there were tapes present and he did loose time, because he drove slowly back to the SS road.
Ironically, he still won the rally in PWRC.
PS! Story is about our good friend Nasser and Acropolis rally if you didn't know :-)
what limited resources have to do with organisational errors ???
Also since Mr Bartoz was the man to remove the tape...that shows that it was clearly in the wrong place thus what the citroen drivers did was not wrong.
Nasser is just a disgrace to the sport....how many times has he been caught with illegal cars ???Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
I think that the number is two. But he has this funny DSQ-s from Dakar and this 5 minutes penalty in Greece. So, currently at least 4 times he has broken the rules and got the penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I just watched the stage times and this questionable SS. Jari would have won that stage as well (he was only 2 sec slower than Loeb on that one and waaayyy ahead of the others). So, that means he and Loeb basically both won 6 stages. Like Subaru boss told about McRae "Sooner or later there will be one rally distance between incidents." I hope it happens sooner with Jari Matti, it is just sad to watch his points tally in the season table. He is much better than the numbers tell.
Absolutely not. That shows nothing. If You want to make strong statements, please give us exact notes from road book. What safety delegate did on place has nothing to do with the course marked in road book.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uut...kirjan-piirros
Here is picture of that roadbook. Without any questions all Citroens are not followed the road that was draw in that book... Last box(18) of that page...
Don't forget Acropolis 2009Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford