Acropolis Rally 2011

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Originally Posted by wrc1600

I am getting fed up with Ford, they stopped developing Focus half way through last season, then I thought they will be way ahead of Citroen with Fiesta, especially when Citroen kept saying they had not enough time to develop DS3. And in fact they were in Sweden but since then all privaters have been through the hell (Solberg had even a break from ralling in Argentina) with those Fiestas.

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Well, I still ask to myself how did they managed to win the championship in 2007...

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Don't believe Citroën press releases. That's nonsense. Citroën has far more people and resources than M-Sport ;)

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No I don't believe everything I read is true :) I think it maybe something going on behind the scenes as Antony Warmbol revealed on his blog, after Sweden where most Fiestas were going at the same level. Now disapointment after disapointment

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Originally Posted by focus206

Well, I still ask to myself how did they managed to win the championship in 2007...

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I think Focus was far more better and competitive against C4

Citroen sport is just better then M-sport.

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Originally Posted by focus206

Well, I still ask to myself how did they managed to win the championship in 2007...

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How old are you?! They had GreatGronholm.

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Originally Posted by wrc1600

I am getting fed up with Ford, they stopped developing Focus half way through last season, then I thought they will be way ahead of Citroen with Fiesta, especially when Citroen kept saying they had not enough time to develop DS3. And in fact they were in Sweden but since then all privaters have been through the hell (Solberg had even a break from ralling in Argentina) with those Fiestas.

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Same to me. It is now clear that Citroen is much better and they are just playing with Fords. I still believe that Ford is able to win in Finland with the help of local knowledge, but that´s it. It is not enough. Hopefully Ford will break their contract with M-Sport and start their own "Boreham 2" works team. Just dreaming. It will never happen :-(

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Originally Posted by Barreis

How old are you?! They had GreatGronholm.

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Ok, Ford had Gronholm, but Citroen had Loeb, who in 2006 with the Xsara dominated the driver championship, winning it even with skipping 4 rounds. And Ford won the 2006 title just because Loeb skipped these 4 final rounds.
So what? In 2007 the C4 wasn't so good?

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Originally Posted by rp

Same to me. It is now clear that Citroen is much better and they are just playing with Fords. I still believe that Ford is able to win in Finland with the help of local knowledge, but that´s it. It is not enough. Hopefully Ford will break their contract with M-Sport and start their own "Boreham 2" works team. Just dreaming. It will never happen :-(

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Finland is to be or not be for Ford, but Finns should win home event. Next year will be interesting if Mini comes out better than Ford.

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Originally Posted by focus206

Ok, Ford had Gronholm, but Citroen had Loeb, who in 2006 with the Xsara dominated the driver championship, winning it even with skipping 4 rounds. And Ford won the 2006 title just because Loeb skipped these 4 final rounds.
So what? In 2007 the C4 wasn't so good?

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C4 had too many crashes in 2007 and Sordo not so competitive on gravel.

My guess is MSport the private company never had budget compared to factory Citroen at any given time, probably multiple times less. The only reason Gronholm could had kept up with Loeb was because of his amazing outright speed on gravel. Most fanboys are too busy sucking up to Loeb and Citroen to realize this. Now is the reality and Ford doesn't have an answer for Citroen, all hope is on Latvala.

As for the the rally, I don't think Citroen will allow Petter to win. If Petter wants to win he should make sure to have a long conversation with Quesnel tonight, otherwise random parts in his car will begin to implode.