Rally Jordan 2010

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

According to Autosport, the drivers want to use Shakedown as a qualifying session, to decide the running order

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If the drivers are for it I'm sure it'd be good, but I don't understand how that would work... would the shakedown results give the reverse starting order for day 1, or all three days?

Even the current system would be fine if drivers weren't allowed to know splits and times during the last stage of the day. Stopping any non-emergency radio contact between teams and drivers would do it, but it'd be difficult to enforce. Drivers could still slow down at the end of the stage in the hopes of getting a better position, but without knowing what was going on, it'd be a risky move.

Well as Wilson and Ford are just as happy with these tactics where do you all suggest Ogier and Sordo move to? Both manufacturers are pulling these tactic not just the evil French as some of you seem to imply.

Or men pop out from the bush with a sign. For qualifying, then I would just try to qualify slower. For lower class sweeping, you have to think marketing as well, people wants to see the fast cars.

Going back to reverse seems to be the best choice if you want changes.

Someone could tell me why Flodin lost 27m in the last stage to Armindo and yet is still in front of him in overall classification ?

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

According to Autosport, the drivers want to use Shakedown as a qualifying session, to decide the running order.

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It would be good, also it would give some value to the shakedown, at the moment its nothing but a wast of time.
The system that they did have in AUS a few years back, where drivers could choose their starting order was best sofar.

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

According to Autosport, the drivers want to use Shakedown as a qualifying session, to decide the running order. Personally, I'm all for it.
As for Quesnel, he has history; protesting against Audi at Le Mans\ Sebring. Not that Ford are innocent either!

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Sounds sensible.

How did the system worked in the old days, where the drivers were seeded a different starting number (almost) every rally? Was it just a draw or..?

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Originally Posted by Tomi

It would be good, also it would give some value to the shakedown, at the moment its nothing but a wast of time.
The system that they did have in AUS a few years back, where drivers could choose their starting order was best sofar.

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Not a waste of time, need to drive a bit to get the feeling, especially drivers who gets little to no testing. How will you know how to setup the car for the rally? How about F1 practices, waste of times? No testings for newcomers like Rosjean.

Of course, you can have qualifying in addition to shakedown. Again I point out its better to qualify slower so you can start later, same thing. However, let highest qualifier choose his starting position, and so on for the next fastest qualifier. This is still down to tactic and will get abused.

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Originally Posted by jrally

Someone could tell me why Flodin lost 27m in the last stage to Armindo and yet is still in front of him in overall classification ?

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It was seconds.

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Originally Posted by tmx

Not a waste of time, need to drive a bit to get the feeling, especially drivers who gets little to no testing. How will you know how to setup the car for the rally? How about F1 practices, waste of times? No testings for newcomers like Rosjean.

Of course, you can have qualifying in addition to shakedown. Again I point out its better to qualify slower so you can start later, same thing. However, let highest qualifier choose his starting position, and so on for the next fastest qualifier. This is still down to tactic and will get abused. Don't think qualifying works for rallying.

It was seconds.

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Offcourse the fastest chooses where he want to start between 1-15, the second fastest after him, 15 fastest should do like this, the rest in time order. Also there should be limited runs, max 3, fastest counts.
And this same could be used also to decide next days driving order, the fastes chooses where he want to start next day.... and so on.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82678

Seems perfectly sensible to me.

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82678

Seems perfectly sensible to me.

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I like it too