[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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Originally Posted by Finni

OK, who can honestly say that spectating at the stage is as interesting with group N cars as with wrc-cars. Or who can say that video clips of group N cars are spectacular in slightest extent?

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I can say 100% no group N is not good to watch for spectator HOWEVER is driving as they are sooo dull!!!

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Originally Posted by ste898

I can say 100% no group N is not good to watch for spectator HOWEVER is driving as they are sooo dull!!!

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You obviously haven't been watching properly, have you ever seen a rally live before?

Group N can be spectacular, Group A can be spectular, a FWD Lada can be spectacular.

I have seen a Hyundai Excel 1.6 driven so that it was very exciting to watch.

Any true rally fan will see this.

Ray

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Originally Posted by Finni

OK, who can honestly say that spectating at the stage is as interesting with group N cars as with wrc-cars. Or who can say that video clips of group N cars are spectacular in slightest extent?

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I can honestly say that a properly driven group N car can be very spectacular,you can see when a group N car is pushed to the limit.
I know that is hard to understand to some fans because group N is not their top group , but in this part of Europe it is the top group so all of the top drivers are driving group N car and they are pushing very hard.

In Italy I would prefer to watch Ucci,Longhi,Aghini and Cantamessa in group N cars then some of those REALLY slow drivers in WRC cars (there are some exceptions in WRC cars that are driving properly,hats down to them)

About videos:Just watch Czech videos where all of the top drivers are driving group N.Trust me,they are very fast ;)


So my conclusion:Group N cars can be interesting

to raybak: But a RWD Lada VFTS is even more spectacular ;)

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Originally Posted by OldF

Some trains are also going with a very high speed but IMO that’s not so spectacular.

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Well, the drivers shouldn't be given trains to drive then.

Current WRC cars are unspectacular. Not the drivers.

Group N can be spectacular, but it is AS spectacular as WRC. Not in a million years. Of course, if you watch a national series that has only group F cars in it the best of those can be spectacular. Add one WRC with decent driver to the same rally and suddenly all the others look like mopeds.

I really hope that group N and S2000 is not the future. At least it has to be S2000+. Hopefully S2000++ :)

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Originally Posted by Woodeye

Group N can be spectacular, but it is AS spectacular as WRC. Not in a million years. Of course, if you watch a national series that has only group F cars in it the best of those can be spectacular. Add one WRC with decent driver to the same rally and suddenly all the others look like mopeds.

I really hope that group N and S2000 is not the future. At least it has to be S2000+. Hopefully S2000++ :)

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Sure it isnt as spectacular as WRC,it never will be.

There are not much better sights for a rally fan,then to see a WRC approaching a hairpin (possibly on mountain roads) ,a little squirlle is released from the turbo while braking and the car gently sliding while it is glued to the tarmac (as low as possible).
That is the top moment for me ;)

But group N isnt as DEADLY BORING AND DULL as some members are describing it,surely it isnt and it never will be.

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Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000

There are not much better sights for a rally fan,then to see a WRC approaching a hairpin (possibly on mountain roads) ,a little squirlle is released from the turbo while braking and the car gently sliding while it is glued to the tarmac (as low as possible).
That is the top moment for me ;)

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Are you still living in 2003?

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Originally Posted by RS

Are you still living in 2003?

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Why? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Woodeye

Group N can be spectacular, but it is AS spectacular as WRC. Not in a million years. Of course, if you watch a national series that has only group F cars in it the best of those can be spectacular. Add one WRC with decent driver to the same rally and suddenly all the others look like mopeds.

I really hope that group N and S2000 is not the future. At least it has to be S2000+. Hopefully S2000++ :)

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You cancelled your own argument there. It is the quality of the driver and how they push the car to and beyond the limit that makes them spectacular.

A bad driver in a WRC is boring. A good driver in something just saved from the wreckers yard is fun to watch.

The difference between class of cars is too subjective and every fan has their own opinion. AWD vs RWD vs FWD, Old vs New, Turbo vs N/A

However the spectacle is not from the tool but from the skilled tradesman using it. A great driver will always look great, no matter what they are driving.

One of the most spectacular drives I have ever seen was actually the Toyota Landcruiser recovery vehicle at the end of the event. Was all crossed up and onto two wheels and was simply beautiful to see.