Max Mosley opens a can of worms.

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Originally Posted by janneppi

Less inane bickering of irrelevant marriege stats and more insanely stupid bickering about the actual subject.

OK?

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Ok
MaX read the prince, and followed it once again.

Per the prince, MaX succeeded in creating the appearance of a crisis, in a sufficient manner to "win" a certain vote, sued the villain (NOTW), warned them only he could defeat the truly evil one (Bernie) as well as appealling (or "influencing") to certain elements within the FIA, thereby justifying his continuance in the office through this charade of a vote.

In the process he followed the numerous examples of others similarly situated, such as Bill Clinton ("what sex, what woman...that is not sex...") where the stufff rolls off just like water off a duck's back, or as someone once said, never let them see you sweat.....

In the process, he may have created the justification for manufacturers behind the scenes, to breakaway from the FIA and bernie or for bernie to breakaway from the fia...................and not the comments of germany and so forth, about their leaving the FIA, and some of the smaller clubs getting money and so forth, http://msn.foxsports.com/motor/story...-of-confidence )

of course if ferrari will not go, then that will not happen except as a threat to try to drive bernie off his demands (hence the reason Ioan has taken the perch that he has taken, given his position for ferrari)

pretty simple actually for a skilled practioneer of the prince

Ball game over.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

I also find it distasteful for you , to call this debate "insanely stupid bickering" .
Sorry , Janneppi , but that was insulting , and the kind of comment that regularly incites behavior that gets good debates such as this , closed down .

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I disagree on that very much, few years on this forum have taught me that after 26 pages on the same subject begins to wear down people as they have been going over and over again the same old arguments several time already.
They sure as hell don't need my comments as an excuse to get on each others throat as is evident of the post deleted from this discussion.
For many, it's not about the discussion anymore, but seems to be the same old pissing contest(be it civilised or lowbrow) that surfaces time and time again, and that frustrates the hell out of me.

Personally, I view big parts of this thread insaly stupid, therefore I have mostly stayed away from discussing on it and will do so in the future.
You may find my comments insulting, so be it, I can't please everyone.

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Originally Posted by janneppi

I disagree on that very much, few years on this forum have taught me that after 26 pages on the same subject begins to wear down people as they have been going over and over again the same old arguments several time already.
They sure as hell don't need my comments as an excuse to get on each others throat as is evident of the post deleted from this discussion.
For many, it's not about the discussion anymore, but seems to be the same old pissing contest(be it civilised or lowbrow) that surfaces time and time again, and that frustrates the hell out of me.

Personally, I view big parts of this thread insaly stupid, therefore I have mostly stayed away from discussing on it and will do so in the future.
You may find my comments insulting, so be it, I can't please everyone.

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How moderate of you .

You can't please everyone , but you can please me by not insulting everyone .

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Originally Posted by janneppi

Personally, I view big parts of this thread insaly stupid,...

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Not the comment expected from a good moderator. :s
Whom should I report this now?! :p :

I see no problem with deleting posts that are being rude, uncivilized and so on. But calling others opinions and comments insanely stupid is not a good showing.

Just my 2c.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Not the comment expected from a good moderator. :s
Whom should I report this now?! :p :

I see no problem with deleting posts that are being rude, uncivilized and so on. But calling others opinions and comments insanely stupid is not a good showing.

Just my 2c.

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Hummm....ban the moderator for a couple of weeks??

:D

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Originally Posted by ioan

Not the comment expected from a good moderator. :s

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Well, what would you call counteless vulgar references to Mosleys private life, provacative personal comments about peoples ethics and moral, unpleasant xenophobic comments, and of course the normal off topic bickering which has little to do with the actual subject?
Just to name some things on the top of my head. I'd call those pretty stupid. ;)

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Originally Posted by janneppi

Well, what would you call counteless vulgar references to Mosleys private life, provacative personal comments about peoples ethics and moral, unpleasant xenophobic comments, and of course the normal off topic bickering which has little to do with the actual subject?
Just to name some things on the top of my head. I'd call those pretty stupid. ;)

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We all might find some posts more or less perfect, however I learned not pass judgement on them anymore as it is offensive.

This thread went on all the possible directions since it's start however it didn't develop as badly as others did in the past.

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Originally Posted by janneppi

Well, what would you call counteless vulgar references to Mosleys private life, provacative personal comments about peoples ethics and moral, unpleasant xenophobic comments, and of course the normal off topic bickering which has little to do with the actual subject?
Just to name some things on the top of my head. I'd call those pretty stupid. ;)

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It's called 'defferent strokes for different folks'. Just shows you how peoples opinions differ. I like a debate that stirs the brain, and I thought we had quite a civilised one going on here.

Sometimes what you may see as banaal, insane cobblers, is not what is seen by others. Human nature that is.

You can see why people can rightly fail to understand sometimes the acts of the moderators, who clearly are using their opinions to moderate, rather than a specific and fixed set of criteria..........

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Originally Posted by janneppi

Well, what would you call counteless vulgar references to Mosleys private life, provacative personal comments about peoples ethics and moral, unpleasant xenophobic comments, and of course the normal off topic bickering which has little to do with the actual subject?
Just to name some things on the top of my head. I'd call those pretty stupid. ;)

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I'd call it trying to change the subject .
It was your post that was called into question .

Conduct unbecoming , it could be called .

Unrepentent , you could be called .

The difference between this issue and Max's , in this sense , is only that his issue has nothing to do with his job .

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

I'd call it trying to change the subject .

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Actually, it's you among others who are changing the subject commenting on my post. I was instructing members to stay on topic, albeit it was a rather frustrated comment, but it's you who are continuing with this issue instead of talking about Mosley and CO.

Perhaps a sign of a thread loosing it's momentum a bit? ;)