Without official Ford support, M-Sport won't have the money to develop the car, hence it'll become the worst choice for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
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Without official Ford support, M-Sport won't have the money to develop the car, hence it'll become the worst choice for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
But they developed it well enough from scratch to lead the Manufacturers this season. I think saying that is just an excuse for Ogier to leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by smsgrafica
The truth is, MSport cant afford his wages again without Ford or a major sponsor...
Everyone thought Toyota would be the worst car for 2017Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Paddon insists 2018 is his year for the push, which means he needs to be in the main car for the whole 2018 season, yet David Evans writes this:
''Hyundai has remained tight-lipped on next season, but Autosport's sources have confirmed Mikkelsen is expected to tackle a full season along with Thierry Neuville next year. Paddon and Sordo are expected to share a third i20 Coupe.''
Meh.
Citroen said that they don´t have money for 4 cars in Catalonia, maybe that is also reason for not hiring Mikkelsen ?
How can they make deal with Ogier, he is 10x more expensive than Mikkelsen ?
I still don´t believe that M-Sport and Citroen are Ogier´s only choices.
I see it the same way...Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Nobody has a big sponsor for Ford in the pocket? Martini would be nice :-)
Unless a new manufacturer is coming (0% chance for that now), Ogier's choices is either Ford or Citroen. And possibly in both cases with reduced wages...
Ogier also said he could retire if 'everything isnt in place'...
I think its quite possible if he can go out winning the title with a different team... something Loeb didnt do.
Citroen will find the money for a driver like Seb, but not Mikkelsen. Just like they would've found room for Ogier at the beginning of this year but not Andreas or Jari. Ogier probably feels he has unfinished business there, and it cannot be underestimated how important winning a championship with 3 different manufacturers could be for someone like Seb, who has nearly done it all now.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Almost a no lose situation for him. He has nothing to prove to anyone, with him highly likely to win a title away from the VW domination. He goes to Citroen on a nice big long term contract, French driver/French team, with the aim of returning them to the top of the sport. If he wins another title he's a god and regains a lot of support from the French people who still aren't huge on him, and if he struggles everyone will just blame the car which we know is currently the worst anyway (although i still dont think its fundamentally flawed, and can be turned into a title challenger)
Strange news today. I guess it's the manufacturers title that they are chasing. Isn't Msport a bit too far ahead though? I'd be amazed if they manage.
Not really. Realistically this is to give Andreas time in the car so he can hit the ground running next year. Manufacturers title is over for this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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LOL a better translation would be:Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
"As of now, the stuff about Australia and GB you're just making up! Or that's what you'd like to be true, obviously. Just relax, know-it-all."
It's not as confrontational as it sounds in English, but it's not far off.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Hyundai needs a miracle to win it, so even those that's what the press release talks about, you can read 2018 between the lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
What hasn't helped here is the weird way Hyundai worded the press release with regards to the GB and Australia line-ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I agree too. Thats what I would pick and what I think most people think would give them the best chance of getting the most points.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
Could Hyundai run four cars? Costs aside I've not been keeping track of their chassis usage this season.
That would be a nice solution for GB.
I hope so, as a spectator it would be great to have 4 good Hyundai cars on the event....Dani hasn't traditionally been super strong on GB apart from the odd stage win, but I'd like to see them all. The service mansion has a 4th bay..Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I think this could be a really smart move from Hyundai; more seat time before the season ends and all the pre-season testing for Monte. He should then feel comfortable in the new car/ team. Neuville & Mikkelsen is potentially a really strong team.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Absolutely loving Sordo's replies to Colin on twitter. Gold.
Is there some history between them? Sordo is obviously not a fan of Colin Clark!Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
https://twitter.com/DaniSordo/status/905051854438064130
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Colin Clark @voiceofrally 7h7 hours ago
So @AMikkelsenRally is off to Hyundai for last three rounds. Replacing Paddon in Spain and Sordo in GB and Aus.
Dani Sordo @DaniSordo Replying to @voiceofrally
De momento... lo de Australia y GB te lo estás inventando!! O es lo que a ti te gustaría claro. Venga tomate una tila listillo!
Translated from Spanish by Bing
@voiceofrally @AMikkelsenRally At the moment... Australia and GB you you are inventing! Or is it that you like to clear. A smartass tila come tomato!
Ouch! :DQuote:
Colin Clark @voiceofrally 6h6 hours ago
Just to be clear Hyundai have said driver line up will change for last 3 rounds. Neuville and Mikkelsen in, 3rd driver still to be confirmed
Dani Sordo @DaniSordo Replying to @voiceofrally
Cuando bajaron a tu ídolo Meeke no estabas tan eufórico! ����
Translated from Spanish by Bing Wrong translation?
@voiceofrally When they fell to your Idol Meeke you were not so elated! ����
Tomate una tila listillo has nothing to do with tomatoes. I don't know what tila is but it's likely a saying similar to "come at me smart ass"
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Up until Germany Hyundai have used a total of 6 chassis. Potential to have another 3 chassis before season end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
But this is very different to desire/ability to run 4 cars.
If Hyundai has NG I20 RX..Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
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It’s not that harsh. Tila is the Tilia tree. He’s just being ironic and recommending Clark to chill out…Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Venga = Come on; tomate una tila = have a lime blossom tea; listillo = smart ass.
Could this be Sordo winding down, and Mikkelsen being brought in to replace him long term? Makes sense to give him the change to do Spain, and Mikkelsen has won the event before, so the chance to take points off both Ogier and MSport is entirely logical for both championships.
I love the irony given the last tarmac event Paddon was the highest placed Hyundai and has done this event 6 times before and came 4th overall last year, but given his season, sadly it's entirely understandable to bench him.
They have an RX engine from the old Rhys Millen Veloster. Probably it won't be much of a hassle to swoop it in one i20 coupe chassis and have a competitive RX car. VW did the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono
there is a shitstorm at twitter from Spanish fans against him.Even Vallejo was harsch at Colin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Sergio Vallejo*@sergiovallejof
Replying to @voiceofrally @Kuderito @DaniSordo
ah! that explains everything!! Sorry for considering you a journalist.
Totally undeserved.
Clearly when there is an extra driver and they bench Paddon for Catalunya it's likely someone gets benched in the other events. That's all he said.
More exactly:
"Just to be clear Hyundai have said driver line up will change for last 3 rounds. Neuville and Mikkelsen in, 3rd driver still to be confirmed"
The Millen motor is fairly old and outdated version of the current motors. The Veloster used by his team was based on the old Hyundai Elantra WRC. Rhys later used a Ford engine from a Swedish engine builder (hint hint). Stephan Verdier had the Hyundai WRC motor in his car which was grossly low in power compared to the new motors yet he managed to do fairly well and it was not easily visible when he was up there with Rhys for a few events.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
If Hyundai does a RX program they would run their own motor for sure.
Yep, and honestly it's great to see people facing brit rally journos that tend to forget they work for the WRC official media, not to a local radio or tabloid. Still, Sordo's last sentence wasn't aggressive or impolite, like many here suggested.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Translation software did Sordo no favours there. Made his responses look overly aggressive. I'm sure it will blow over.
Colin is certainly a brave guy talking so brazenly about drivers being dropped, under-performing etc. I mean it happens in sport literally all the time, but rallying is such a small circle.
Gigi Galli has been driving KIA RX Supercar and as we all should know: KIA/Hyundai are same company brands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono
What I don't understand here is your use of the word 'Brit'. I fail to see what any of this has to do with someone's nationality? Some of the tweets directed at Colin seem to be entirely about his race, and not about what he's said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
FYI, all he did was say no Sordo for GB and Aus.
Here's Hayden Paddon saying "we remain under contract until the end of the 2018 season and still have some *rally's* remaining this year to show what I know we are capable of."
So, not one singular rally, but more than one. https://www.facebook.com/haydenpaddo...type=3&theater
I remember Sordo saying not long ago that he didn't like rallycross.
Yves Matton openly saying he's talking to Ogier for 2018? https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/sta...11610578841600
The article is in French, only got Google Translate to go by, is that what it says?
Yes he openly says he is their target and that negotiations are ongoing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
Colin Clark*@voiceofrally
Nice phone call with @DaniSordo this morning. Very pleased to see that we are still mates. Rally Catalunya can't come quick enough!
No fresh news in Motorsport News today - which went to press before yesterday's Mikkelsen announcement.
Two small things:
Matton having a bit of a moan about the fact teams have to nominate their drivers for an event before the previous round has finished. They have to commit their GB lineup before Spain run, and similarly Australia before GB. He implies it's something they need to speak to the FIA about.
Oliver Solberg is lining up his WRC debut at Wales GB 2018. His plan is to combine his Latvian and Estonian championships with the ERC. It doesn't specific but I have to assume in the U27 championship as he's running a 208 with support from Peugeot Norway. And then he'll be 17 in time to do GB. Petter confirmed he wanted to do the GB reece this year but isn't old enough.