this discussion is getting recycled very often....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Why doesn't he have equal machinery ?? Why wasn't he picked by a manufacturer ??
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this discussion is getting recycled very often....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Why doesn't he have equal machinery ?? Why wasn't he picked by a manufacturer ??
why isn't he driving for them then ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
Citroen needed Solberg to steal points from Hirvonen, now with Petters DQ Hirvonen suddnely gets 3 points as a gift to become level with Loeb. I am pretty sure that is not in the interest of Citroen, so the "cheating" and DQ is not managed by the Citroen top. There are far better options then cheating with kilo's to make Petters car go faster after Loebs retirement: engine mapping to richer to stay on top of Hirvonen but not beating Ogier.
err... it seems N.O.T. is NOT making sense again http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/icons/icon10.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Using the logic device of Occams razor - it tells you they were cheaper! 'All these years' is just 3 seasons, the first 2 of which Mini weren't even available and the only 2 other manufacturer teams had long term contracted drivers in place. You're views would be better accepted if you didn't constantly exaggerate - I think you've been told that at least a million times.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Petter rejected the mini, as he was quoted he wanted a competitive car. Which was very logical considering his C4 being pretty fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
cheaper ??? so Solberg prefers to pay millions instead of getting payed at the age of 37 ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
competitive ?? but all solberg fans say that the Citroen ds3 solberg has is not the same as the official one......Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
The Mini is a competetive car now, so prehaps solberg is regretting retiring at the end of this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
you are still young so its normal to put your heart above your brain... discussions are better kept between adults.Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff
why retire ?? if he is that good i am sure VW will pick him up....... right ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
So you think that PSR doesn't pay Mr Solberg a salary for driving for them? Much you have to learn about self-employment and tax arrangements. The money Petter raises has to pay him and the team personnel - not just Citroen for the car. I'd be amazed if Petter hasn't got a nice offshore account still.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It would make sense if they did that, VW is almost guarranteed to be a good team, if Citroen can do it VW can.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Even you know that, when you don't just type for the purpose of annoying everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
His rejection of mini in favor of the DS3 was obviously done long before this season, on the reasonable assumption that it would be as competitive as the C4. The fact that this turned out not to materialize, until now, is a completely different topic.
then why he doesn't continue next year as well ??? his salary not big enough ?? LOL LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
i have better things to do than annoy people...Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
The thing is i am having a different opinion than some of you guys....whenever you are having a discussion (on whatever topic) with someone that doesn't share your views you think he does that because he likes to annoy you ??
Peter thought that the ds3 would be as competitive as the C4 he drove or the official C4 Loeb/sordo drove ???
If it is the first one then i think the difference is exactly the same, same car but less service equipment and spares. If he thought he would get exactly the same treatment as the official guys then he is just naive.
so if they do not pick him that maybe (just maybe lol) means he is not good enough anymore ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
Not at all, but it's the way you express yourself. Most of the rest of us have extremely civil discussions in the rallying forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
please can you point me to any uncivilised response i gave ???
and i am being honest because i really have no intention to annoy anyone.
Most times you have different view, but some times you type just to annoy and tick people off. That's a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Obviously Petter knows he has a costumer car, not a factory car, which means it's engine is not as strong. But the C4 was close enough for being comfortably quicker than than the factory Fords, and even to battle with factory C4s if pushed properly. These things have all been clearly stated by Petter too, but I'm not gonna dig up such references just because you have bad memory.
We can give you evidence, which you always cry for..Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
1. You been banned from this forum before
2. You are by far the one blocked by most other members, probably a comfortable x20 multiple to number 2.
well maybe that tells that the official fiesta is closer to the ds3 than the focus was to C4...so hirvonen and Latvala especially can now be faster than Solberg..Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
i was NEVER banned....ask any moderator.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
Actually Blocking someone is admitting defeat.....so i am glad that most people prefer to run away than confront me.
Yepp, just blocked him myself... so unless somebody uses the quote function I am finally free to read a forum mainly of enthusiasts... What a relief it is not to see the rants of a frustrated desk bound "never-will-be" criticizing every single person in every rally..Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
If the person being blocked wants to regard this as some sort of 'victory' on their part, so be it. I think that says more about them than it does about me. But this is now going way off topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Or unless they decide they wish to take over every thread with their contributions — a common tactic in some quarters.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
And he wasn't the only one to think that way, by any means.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
There comes a point in many a driver's career where they are simply not viewed by major teams as top-line material any more. I fear that Solberg has reached that point now, though I'm still not certain the works teams are right to think that way.
Again you make a sentence just for the sake of childishly trying to win over my argument, while you certainly know much better. You don't even say it's your belief, you say "maybe".. just to keep your back clean.. coward.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
well i am using maybe because i am not sure about it...are you sure of what you are saying ?
you made the assumption that the private C4 was better than the private Ds3 and you based your assumption on peters results from peters points of view...i made my assupmtion using the fords point of view....who can guarantee us that one of us is certainly right.
You see, this is where you are dead wrong..Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Not everybody has a clinical forum addiction, a thrill over sitting for hour after hour every single day, posting like a lunitic in an attempt to rewrite history by spamming responses to every single word that is written you don't agree with. When you look at a topic page like this one, and 10 out of 14 posts belong to NOT (a pretty common sight), is this a discussion or is it someone who just forgot to take his medication coctail? You just can't leave a single discussion going in a direction you don't agree with.. You see the purpose other people have is not to post the last word on all discussions and shut everyone up. It's possible to accept that other views than your own can be posted.
And you say you are "glad", for them being "defeated". Which is exactly the problem. This is your purpose, to defeat as many as you can. And it's why we all see you as no more than a douche-bag.
This is why you are blocked. People just don't have the time to spend on such crap.
Actually i make 3.5 posts per day on average.....i would not call that an addiction.
when i see something i do not agree of course i am going to point it out....isn't that the normal procedure ??
Please keep this on topic and take your private issues to pm thank you !
My memory says you hit 10000 posts about a year ago, and your history shows 493 posts since 24th August. Which both gives a 12 posts per day average.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
No, it's not normal to ALWAYS point EVERYTHING out that you don't agree with, EVERY time. The fact that we post different views is not that we forgot what you said yesterday, or 10 minutes ago.. We do remember very well.
Again I know besides your genuine rally interest and part-time interesting posts you have just a douche-bag agenda, where significant parts of it is 100% conscious.
Actually not. If people block you they are just sick and tired of the trolling that you do around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Defeating you in conversation is easier than beating sick dog... etc. nonsense.
Is sick dog a term N.O.T uses to describe slow drivers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodeye
Yes. And for 7586 other things as well.
I am not sure that Mini would have lent Solberg a car at all. He seems to have an ability to get on the wrong side of people. He did something wrong at the end of 2008 and Richards has not forgiven him. I can only speculate that Richards wanted him to do the season with an upgraded 2008 Impreza (that eventually went to Gronholm) and was upset when he choose a 2003 Xsara. Does anyone have any suggestions why Prodrive might be pissed with Petter?Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Richards may have been dissapionted for their own sake, but upset or pissed? I can't see where you got that from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Petter did just the logical thing to go after a proven fast and reliable car. Testing the Xsara (it was 2006 spec) for 400 meters was all he needed to decide it was the right choice. And not only that, he had to manage his marketing image/value, where driving the Impreza would just maintain the question marks some had of him at the time. Using the older Xsara his project also had limited downside risk. And what he did with it and the C4 made people understand how poor the Impreza really was. I don't think Petter will ever regret what he did from 2009 on.
I met a pristine transit with a trailer coming back to Ireland in July 10. I jokingly said have you a mini wrc under there.? He smiled and said it was a ford!! He did say they were evaluating 2 makes and I asked him would Petter be asked back? He said he doubted it as the feedback on 2008 impreza was always negative from him...
as far as i know, petter was an employee of subaru, atko was employee of prodrive.
petters last years in prodrive/subaru was not good times, and i can say på 99% that petter will never drive a prodrive car again, and prodrive want not have petter back. who's fault it was that the car sucks isn't easy to say from the outside, but petter was by far fed up with the prodrive system, so i dont think he even cared what happened there. if subaru do a comeback, im is close to betting that petter will be in that car!