Waldo will probably nail this one but here it is: Car, year, driver, track
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Waldo will probably nail this one but here it is: Car, year, driver, track
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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
It is Indy, it is a 1978 McLaren/Cosworth. It is Don Mergard's car out of Cincy, and tried to qualify in 1981 and 1982 with Phil Threshie in 1981 and Teddy Pilette in 1982. Helmet looks gold though so it could be Bob Harkey on a shake down but Phil ran almost the same helmet.
No it wasn't the Crombie Zombie as that was an old Vollstedt.
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There were a lot of mistakes that is why I use notes, NSSN and USAC stuff to determine my 1968 stuff. Plus EYE BALLS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
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that's an M-16-Offy - not an M-24-Cosworth... didn't do any other looking....Quote:
Originally Posted by !!WALDO!!
I am looking at too but it is later due the cockpit walls. It looks like one of the Team McLaren spares sold off, could be a 1977.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
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It is the Buddy Boys Entry from Canada, it is an Eldon Rassmussen modified Atlanta that Larry McCoy raced in the mid 1970's with a Chevy Engine installed.
Bobby Harkey actual flagged off a run in 1980, way too slow. Taken at the Speedway in 1980.
I was there and plain forgot about that effort. Both Buddy and Trevor ran some races and I think Trevor ran a NCTS race not that long ago.
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I was thinking those radiator pods looked pretty Ras-car like.... nice find!
If whom ever is saying Harkey, Indy, 1980, Ras-car that is correct, if one did not well that is the answer
I was working there and stubbed my toe on that car in 1980, literally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
I forgot the car but remembered the pain, and the Atlanta emblem on it.
It was listed OFFICIALLY as an RASCAR-Atlanta, as there was a RASCAR-Vollstedt also.
The first is the modifier the second is the chassis. Harkey drove the following type of car twice in 1973 and 1974.
KENYON-Coyote-Eagle/Foyt
The Chassis was an Eagle, 1967 in nature, the body was orginally Joe Leonard's/Jim McElreath Coyote from 1967/1968 and modified by Don Kenyon.
It has been listed in pictures as a Kenyon/Foyt. One then assumes it was built by Don but it wasn't.
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Two cars, who are they, where, what kind of cars and the significant this historic picture for the two drivers.
This system sticks.
This is a qualifying photo from Indy. Who is it.
Pedro Rodriguez, 1967 Indy, DNQ,Watson-Ford of Leader Card Racers. At the following race at the Milwaukee Mile, Jim Hurtubise drove the car.
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Originally Posted by szautke
He qualified but was bumped, thus an official photo.
You're up.....
Hello. :D
Ok we are going to change this up a bit. This photo has three pieces of history in it. The white car and the dark car had its own history and the two combined did also.
So besides the year, drivers and where. Try to name the chassis and engines (One rare) and the histories that this picture refect.
This was a very famous picture in its time.
Drivers- Rick Muther, and Gig Stephens
Year- 1970
Car- Gerhardt - Pratt & Whitney and Halibrand - Ford
Track- Langhorne
Last race that a Turbine powered car qualified
Not close.... Years before and miles southwest and two drivers that found themselves on a trophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent
Parnelli Jones blown offy Shrike.
That is one. But what was historic about Parnelli in that car that day?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Of course where more or less answers the second historical question.
It was the last race at Phoenix, but the photo is to small to tell what the other cars is and historic about Parnelli, no idea, other than he retired from all but Indy there.
Why was he there? He last drove at the Milwaukee Mays 100 in 1965 and won. His second to last start on the Championship trail outside of Indy. This was his last.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Once you figure out why he was there then it answers the second car and why who was driving it.
1966 Phoenix II
Parnelli Jones Shrike-Offy, replacing Dick Atkins in the #98 after he had been killed 1 week prior.
The other is Peter Revson in the Lotus, making his Indy/Champcar debut.
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Originally Posted by Alexamateo
Yes to the first but that ties into the second car.
Parnelli in the Phillipp-Jones/Shrike-Super Offy in 1966 at Phoenix replacing Dick Atkins who was killed at Ascot Park a week earlier. Parnelli's last start on the Championship Trail outside of Indy.
This picture made every racing publication and even the Champaign, IL newspaper. HUGE HINT!
Then I'll say it's Foyt in the first Coyote, although I am just guessing and really don't know how the two would be related.
Nope, you got to think of Atkins. The driver of this car would get his face on the big trophy with this team. He actually drove this exact car at Langhorne in 1967 and this car was in the 500 with a different driver and a different number. One from.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexamateo
Al Unser in a Lola - Ford
Just a shot in the dark. :D
Lola - yeap though so!
In your answer, not Al and not a Lola. Do you understand what I am saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent
Bobby Unser in a Gerhardt - Ford
Ok why is that historic? Why was the picture sent everywhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent
Sorry no message
Ok someone got Adkins getting killed but 2 drivers died in that crash.
Bobby Unser had driven a few races in 1966 for Leader Card on the Watson side of things. Leader Card driver on the Jud Phillips side was Don Branson. After the 1966 Hoosier 100, Branson announced he was retiring from racing at then end of the season. Bobby Unser was hired to drive for Branson and to that end he would drive the #4 Gerhardt-Ford at Trenton but wrecked it. Branson drove the #95 1963 Watson-Offy Roadster.
After Atkins won at Sacramento and Branson finished fourth, the Leader Card team was going to change the Branson #4 Gerhardt to #91 and Branson would qualify his #4 Dirt Car, a car that sat on the pole at the Langhorne 200 in July at PIR. Bobby would drive the #91.
Don Branson died in that crash at Ascot with Atkins. So the Krueger photo ran everywhere as a tribute to the men fallen. Jones for Adkins and Unser for Branson, both cars driven most of the season by those men.
That is why it was also in the Champaign, IL newspaper as it was home for Branson.
Good photographers got more than just two cars racing, he saw a picture that refected the racing world's sadness of the time.
Unser stayed with the Jud Phillips wrench effort until Sacramento of 1970.
Very Cool Story WALDO. :up:
It is some thing I did not know about. Your work is Great. :)
I found that picture and it always moved my emotions as it did when I saw it in 1966.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent
I got to be friends with Don's brother, Don's son Roger and his grand kids and nephews in recent years.
In 1966, Don won at Springfield, I was there. He won a Sprint race at Milwaukee a week later, I was there. His last win.
When a friend of mine told me of a death of two drivers over the weekend, I could not believe my eyes when I saw two names of drivers I liked.
See these photos do have a history and many times we must pay attention to that history.
Thank you....
Here is another photo from Indy but hint, it wasn't qualifying but a publicity photo.
So who is the driver in this photo, the year and make of the Chassis, the year it was taken and how it did in the 500 with whom driving it.
Driver- Tony Rolt
Year- 1963
Car- 1963 Kurtis - Novi
Track- Indianapolis
Finished 21st with Jim McElreath driving it in 1964
Wrong......Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent
Wrong.....
Wrong year....Right otherwise
Told you that
Correct, burned a piston and was scored there.
This driver was the driver assigned to the car, not who ended up driving it.
McElreath was assigned to car #3, not #28.
'64 Novi Bobby Unser
This car was a 1962 Kurtis-Novi and two were built. They both missed the 500 in 1962 with Dick Rathmann and Chuck Stevenson up. In 1963 the pictured car wore the number #56 and was second fastest at over 150MPH and sat in the middle of the front row with Jim Hurtubise. The other Kurtis from 1962 made the race with Bobby Unser and wore #6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
In 1964 Bobby was assigned the #28 car and Jim McElreath was assigned the #3 car as reflections on their finish in the 1963 points. Granatelli had a new car, a Ferguson 4WD car with a Vince and Joe Chassis and it was car #9 with no assigned driver.
As time went on Bobby moved to the #9, Jim to #28 and Art Malone to the #3. With Art running at the end of the race in 12th.
In 1965 Jim Hurtubise qualified the #28 car now number #59 and tore out the transmission on the first lap while passing about 8 cars.
He drove that car to a 4th at Atlanta in 1965, the last time the Novis would race in a race. Bud Tingelstad drove the other Kurtis that day also.
In 1966 Greg Weld had a state of the art Novi and his back up was this car. After tearing up the new car he attempted to get this car up to speed and bent it late on day 4 ending the Novis at Indy and placing them in the history books.
So Bob you are up.
Since Bob hasn't put one up here is one.
It is a Bob'sGarage Special.
Tell us the History of this car if you can.