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Originally Posted by sanguin
Oh man, this is like shooting fish in a freakin' barrel, name a series that wouldn't LOVE to have these "problems".
Gary
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Originally Posted by sanguin
Oh man, this is like shooting fish in a freakin' barrel, name a series that wouldn't LOVE to have these "problems".
Gary
every series has these problems,that's the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
At least they have TV ratingsQuote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
But they GET paid for TVQuote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
At least they have teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
Yes, but they are the SAME drivers, year in & year out. Maybe a couple come & go each year, but not manyQuote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
They have plenty of sponsors to lose. NASCAR is a pretty expensive sponsorship deal. The sponsors they are losing, are the ones that can't keep up. How come CC can't scoop up ALL these sponsors, you think are falling by the wayside, by the dozens?Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
They are on the top, now. The only way they can go is down. NASCAR has a very long way to go, to get to the level that Champ Car is now. Don't try to make us believe that the 800 pound gorilla will fall, over night. We believe THAT, about as well as we believe ANYTHING you post.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
That really depends on whether they want to do what is needed to be done. Doing what they are doing now, won't get it done. They keep saying, wait until next year, it will be all better. I'm still waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
Jeff
But most series don't have as many or the kind of problems CC has. To paraphrase Gary, most series would love to have the kind of problems NASCAR has. That is, of course, that they have the successes, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
Jeff
David Phillips nails it on SpeedTV.com today. D. Walker's quotes are on the money too. Both must be reading this thread. Here is the link:
http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/40891/?page=1
I also went back to Alexa.com and looked a little deeper at the stats available. Below is what I found about where the traffic comes from (shown as percentages).
It is very interesting on a number of levels, especially when one considers the commercial vitality of each series. F1 is an exception in that its highly ranked site attracts a diverse audience whereas most other series have a defined core audience in a single country or region.
I have only tried to show the top ten rankings for each and I was very surprised to see that France was only tied for 7th, with just 2.2% in the Champ Car chart given that Seb has is on his way to his fourth title and there are two of his countrymen in the series. It also looks like Champ Car is big in Russia and Venezuela. Maybe there should be a race in Red Square and Milka should jump ship.
I have put the series in the order of their traffic rank. I do think this information could help us in understanding what happens next.
Formula1.com users come from these countries:
1) United Kingdom: 5.6%
2) Spain: 5.5%
3) India: 5.4%
4) United States: 5.1%
5) Malaysia: 4.9%
6) Philippines: 3.7%
7) Singapore: 3.5%
8) Poland: 3.0%
9) Greece: 2.8%
10) Venezuela: 2.3%
Nascar.com users come from these countries:
1) United States: 82.6%
2) Canada: 5.4%
3) Colombia: 2.3%
4) Puerto Rico: 1.2%
5) France: 1.0%
6) Venezuela: 0.5%
7) Brazil: 0.4%; Germany: 0.4%
8) Philippines: 0.3%; Belgium: 0.3%; Norway: 0.3%; United Kingdom: 0.3%; Australia: 0.3%; Dominican Republic: 0.3%; Honduras: 0.3%
9) Mexico: 0.2%; Italy: 0.2%; Estonia: 0.2%; Austria: 0.2%; Chile: 0.2%; Hungary: 0.2%; India: 0.2%; Peru: 0.2%
10) Thailand: 0.1%; Netherlands: 0.1%
IndyCar.com users come from these countries:
1) United States: 45.2%
2) Canada: 5.0%
3) Brazil: 4.3%
4) United Kingdom: 4.0%; Colombia: 4.0%
5) Venezuela: 3.6%
6) Chile: 3.3%
7) Belgium: 3.0%
8) Singapore: 2.0%
9) Russia: 1.7%; Ukraine: 1.7%
10) New Zealand: 1.3%; Argentina: 1.3%; China: 1.3%
Champcarworldseries.com users come from these countries:
1) United States: 34.6%
2) Canada: 6.1%
3) Russia: 5.0%; Mexico: 5.0%
4) Venezuela: 4.5%
5) United Kingdom: 3.4%; Netherlands: 3.4%
6) Bulgaria: 2.8%; Croatia: 2.8%; Belgium: 2.8%
7) Colombia: 2.2%; Serbia and Montenegro: 2.2%; France: 2.2%;
8) Romania: 1.7%; Australia: 1.7%; Poland: 1.7%; Spain: 1.7%
9) Turkey: 1.1%; Brazil: 1.1%; Germany: 1.1%; Argentina: 1.1%; Lithuania: 1.1%; Qatar: 1.1%
10) Italy: 0.6%; Hungary: 0.6%
V8supercar.com.au users come from these countries:
1) Australia: 73.7%
2) New Zealand: 14.0%
3) United States: 4.7%
4) Croatia: 1.8%
5) United Kingdom: 0.7%; Japan: 0.7%; Hungary: 0.7%
6) Poland: 0.4%; Indonesia: 0.4%; Netherlands: 0.4%; Hong Kong: 0.4%; India: 0.4%; Panama: 0.4%; Philippines: 0.4%; Sweden: 0.4%; Singapore: 0.4%; Thailand: 0.4%
No other countries listed.
Americanlemans.com users come from these countries:
1) United States: 56.5%
2) Croatia: 5.9%; Venezuela: 5.9%
3) United Kingdom: 4.7%; Qatar: 4.7%
4) Netherlands: 3.5%
5) Brazil: 2.4%; Slovenia: 2.4%; France: 2.4%; Austria: 1.2%; Hungary: 1.2%; Bulgaria: 1.2%; Canada: 1.2%; Colombia 1.2%; Cyprus: 1.2%; Hong Kong: 1.2%; Mexico: 1.2%; Malaysia: 1.2%; Romania: 1.2%
No other countries listed.
A1gp.com users come from these countries:
1) Netherlands: 14.4%
2) India: 12.1%
3) United Kingdom: 11.3%
4) Czech Republic: 7.0%
5) Indonesia: 5.8%
6) Malaysia: 5.1%; New Zealand: 5.1%
7) Philippines: 4.7%; United States: 4.7%
8) Brazil: 3.5%; South Africa: 3.5%
9) Canada: 2.3%; Pakistan: 1.9%
10) Germany: 1.6%
Grand-Am.com users come from these countries:
1) United States: 73.2%
2) Qatar: 4.2%; Canada: 4.2%
3) Guatemala: 2.8%; Dominican Republic: 2.8%; United Kingdom: 2.8%
4) Croatia: 1.4%; Costa Rica: 1.4%; Bulgaria: 1.4%; Switzerland: 1.4%; France: 1.4%; Italy: 1.4%; Malaysia: 1.4%
No other countries listed.
It should be about time for you-know-who to fire his Spintron Torpedos and activate his Farce Fields. Uniphasers armed. Fire at will, Mr. Sanguin!
I need to get me some of those. The farce field looks particularly useful (and appropriate). The Uniphasers mostly attack the pocketbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaimWitz
When long time CC supporters like Walker and Phillips publically make such strong and pointed statements, someone should be listening, not "spinning" like he-who-will-not-be-named.
[quote="ChaimWitz"]
Thanks for the data, very interesting and is also shows a genuine international ChampCar viewing.
Also from ChaimWitz data provided:
Formula1.com: 1694
NASCAR.com: 3234
IndyCar.com: 52,076
ChampCarWorldSeries.com: 73,903
shows that KK etc have got an asset but they are loosing it all bt themselves....
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Originally Posted by seppefan
Huh? What are THOSE numbers?
Gary
I don't get it either, but Gary, don't know if you read the Phillips article and saw Derrick Walkers comments...with a stalwart like this making those kind of comments, do you think he's just angling for a formal position from the owners or is he really preparing his exit? I know Derrick fairly well and he's not made these comments in this way in the past, but I think, as most feel today, that the Amigos need to step into the spotlight and formally state their intentions...knowing KK, he's thinking he'll do it in his back yard, but don't you think something should go out now?Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell