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Originally Posted by Andrewmcm

I wonder what the absolute human limit of "faster speeds" and "neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew traaaack record!" is for Indy? When do we reach the point (as in Texas with CART) that humans simply can't tolerate the forces exerted on them by their machines? And if we do get to that point, what do certain elements of the fan base in here do? Simply walk away from the series because their desire for increased speed cannot physically be satisfied? Or do they just enjoy the racing, regardless of what the absolute speed is?

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I couldn't agree more. I fear, though, that these points will go largely unresponded-to.

I also note the extreme difficulty some contributors to this thread have in relating to any mention of how F1 enthusiasts have never been over-concerned by outright speeds.

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Originally Posted by beachbum

Sooooo What is racing anyway? I would like to know from the experts here - most of whom apparently have never raced themselves

Going fast or beating the other competitors, regardless of speed?

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I am sure there is a perfectly good dictionary definition. I don't think either of your ideas quite hack it.

Indycar isn't F1 NASCAR world rally v8 supercst etc

Just sayin

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

Indycar isn't F1 NASCAR world rally v8 supercst etc

Just sayin

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And?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I am sure there is a perfectly good dictionary definition. I don't think either of your ideas quite hack it.

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Ok, if it is neither, then what is it?

When I was racing, it was all about winning. That meant going faster than the rest of the competitors, but not just going "fast".

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Originally Posted by beachbum

Ok, if it is neither, then what is it?

When I was racing, it was all about winning. That meant going faster than the rest of the competitors, but not just going "fast".

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Winning is the object of the exercise, but one can still race and not win, surely.

I agree completely with you about just going 'fast' not being a definition.

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Originally Posted by beachbum

Sooooo What is racing anyway? I would like to know from the experts here - most of whom apparently have never raced themselves

Going fast or beating the other competitors, regardless of speed?

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The only expertise I have is watching races for the past 50+ years, but clearly it is beating the competition, regardless of speed.

Gary

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Originally Posted by garyshell

The only expertise I have is watching races for the past 50+ years, but clearly it is beating the competition, regardless of speed.

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But, as I said above, this is the object of racing, not a definition of 'racing' itself, surely?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

And?

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I thinks it's pretty clear but you will miss the point just the same

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

I thinks it's pretty clear but you will miss the point just the same

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Why not explain?