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Originally Posted by Mirek

There are so many variables that You can't get some nice single value. There are stages where R4 can be even faster and there are stages where R4 have absolutely no chance.

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R4 faster than S2000?? You know very well Mirek, this times are long gone...if drivers in both cars are equal, S2000 destroys R4/N4 on each stage, on each surface. S2000 is a pure racing car, R4 is basicly just a tuned road car.
If R4 car is faster than S2000, it is merely a driver's ability to drive so fast and take so much more risk (example B.Harrach).

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Originally Posted by Ucci

R4 faster than S2000?? You know very well Mirek, this times are long gone...if drivers in both cars are equal, S2000 destroys R4/N4 on each stage, on each surface. S2000 is a pure racing car, R4 is basicly just a tuned road car.
If R4 car is faster than S2000, it is merely a driver's ability to drive so fast and take so much more risk (example B.Harrach).

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Don't think only about stages You know and forget about asphalt. On some gravel stages R4 must be faster because stages with several kilometers long straights do exist in some countries. The difference in top speed of Evo X and S2000 with long gearbox is some 40 km/h, maybe more.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

First start and first victory for STI R4 saloon and Toshi Arai. Gaurav Gill (leader) retired with broken clutch, Alister McRae with overheating and Juha Salo crashed. So no S2000 finished.

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Well done for Subaru again.
Toshi is not as fast as before but first rally with the new saloon and first win is very good result indeed!

What is the advantage to go for a saloon vs a hatchback? Why is subaru going back to the saloon ?

Fiesta R5 - it appears M-Sport are putting together a R5 Fiesta - 32 mm restrictor on 1.6 litre turbo, same suspension on all four corners, stronger 5 speed gearbox.

M-Sport building new R5 Fiesta - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

For the Subaru R4 Saloon - have a check of the FIA homologation list to see if there is a dual listing for the 5 door hatchback and 4 door saloon or separate homologation that has been rubber stamped at a later date.
Sometimes longer rear suspension can be put in the saloon rather than the hatchback on some cars.
For hitting snowbanks the saloon could have the edge.
http://youtu.be/a0j5XSJs75Y

But the saloon is really big car. Almost 20 cm longer than the S12!

If R5 Fiesta is faster than the RRC Fiesta, who will buy an RRC?

Who has bought an RRC anyway?!!

Everyone who bought WRC. RRC is only a way to allow using WRC on national level (strange idea but that's how it is).

Tamrazov, A-Style, Jipocar, Al Rahji, al Suwaidi, Adapta, Maurin, Motortune, Ten Brinke or Kuipers (recently Al Attiyah?) are those who come to my mind as Fiesta WRC/RRC private users.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Tamrazov, A-Style, Jipocar, Al Rahji, al Suwaidi, Adapta, Maurin, Motortune, Ten Brinke or Kuipers (recently Al Attiyah?)

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to complete the list:
Ten Brinke and van Loon's cars are prepared by Wevers Sport. Stohl Racing, Friul and Svensson also have one car each

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

Also Roche, Van Loon, Snijers,... Snijers his Mini WRC is for sale, so is the Fiesta of Prokop... Let's see what the future brings :)

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For some reason I was thinking only about Fiesta. Another Minis of Invelt, Grifone (sold?), Al Kuwari etc.