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Originally Posted by mm1

If you take in to account nm, then the picture is in R3T favour, instead of R3 and S1600 beeing the fastest, isn`t it?

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That's quite questionable. We would need dyno chart and gearing to compare both engines exactly. It's sure that DS3 must have larger power bent but if it really has only 210 Hp maximum, than it hardly can match 250 Hp by some 120 Nm more torque (don't forget that it must have much longer gears due to rather short rpm range - torque is transformed by gears, so power is the only comparable number). Anyway I don't believe press numbers enough to make comparison based on them :)

By the way 1080 kg is for R3C, not R3T. AFAIK R3T has 1120 kg minimum.

R3 is the fastest with the newest evolutions . 2010 Clio has 250 BHP , around 260 is expected next year

According to Miroslav Janota (historic driver) there was ice on same places. Stage Collobrieres is partly under light snow cover!

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PS Megane running as zero finally have anti-lag.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

By the way 1080 kg is for R3C, not R3T. AFAIK R3T has 1120 kg minimum.

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R3T = 1080 kg, R3D = 1150 kg. Just checked it.

A little disadvantage group R cars has on tarmac is that ground clearance can’t be lower than stated on the homologation form.

Aha, so it was changed also (as restrictor size after 2009).

Another besttime for Robert on the last stage of the day (long one). He takes another 11 sec on Tiribassi, Bouffier is staying third and will take thge crown if everything stays like this tomorrow. :)

Much better speed by Sarrazin now - only 25s behind Bouffier despite his problems. Encouraging for an assault on Monte Carlo in January.

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

Much better speed by Sarrazin now - only 25s behind Bouffier despite his problems. Encouraging for an assault on Monte Carlo in January.

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Yes, it is true, but most of the time he allways makes a mistake somewhere.Bouffier is also driving in another context, i am not saying that he is just cruising trough, but i guess he has big safety margin and is only interested in the French title. ;)

After eight specials nothing new, it seems that Tirabassi has to much troubles with his Impreza, so Robert has a safe advantage for the last day.But all this is nothing compare to shocked stage times achived by F1 boy-Kubica!!
I must admit that I as a great fan of Ogier (also a successor of Loeb) am deeply disappointed of his driving capabilities and that he is not abble to at least keep the contact with Kubica, let alone be faster than Kubica! Do not forget-Ogier was two years ago JWRC champion!! And Kubica two years ago maybe did not even know how to start the engine of the rally car....
Ogier is simply losing 0,5 to 1 second/km of the stage. Far too much...And do not doubt about the cars-definitely is a brand new DS3R3T faster than privat, almost ten years old S1600 rally car. Think yust on the chassis, suspensions&traction-how big is the development every year and Clio's homologation had last changes in the year 2005....
Also big disappointment Italians crews in the R3 class....

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Originally Posted by Ucci

And do not doubt about the cars-definitely is a brand new DS3R3T faster than privat, almost ten years old S1600 rally car.

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The horsepowers are still live and kicking although 10 years old. ;)