Hamilton Stripped of Win - Official

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Sorry, this post is fundementally wrong.

The post by Micky is correct. The FIA confirmed that it was not only illegal but the best course of action to get him craned back on track.

Afterwards, the rules were amended.

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Why were the rules ammended then? :confused:

Not a dig at you but I do think that the car was in a dangerous position and the race was safer without the car there so the right thing was done. Perhaps Lewis should have been black flagged but that sort of penalty can always be applied retrospectively as required.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

...Afterwards, the rules were amended.

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Typical :mark:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Why were the rules ammended then? :confused:

Not a dig at you but I do think that the car was in a dangerous position and the race was safer without the car there so the right thing was done. Perhaps Lewis should have been black flagged but that sort of penalty can always be applied retrospectively as required.

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Personally, I think the FIA was fundementally wrong in saying it was the best course of action and if it was, as you rightly point out, why did they change it?

We need to look at a bit of History here.

The rule was not designed to be used to recover cars that would be out of the race but when Ferrari / Schumacher used it for justification when he was pushed back in Germany, they sort of had to leave it in.

Lewis did the same so they couldn't really go back on it but perhaps it illustrated that it needed changing.

Ideally, the FIA should have disqualified Schumacher for getting pushed back into the race but they let it go opening the excuse for others to use a loophole that was never really there.

I do agree with you though that it always should have been illegal and Lewis should have got out of the car and retired.

Another consequense of FIA rules.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Personally, I think the FIA was fundementally wrong in saying it was the best course of action and if it was, as you rightly point out, why did they change it?

We need to look at a bit of History here.

The rule was not designed to be used to recover cars that would be out of the race but when Ferrari / Schumacher used it for justification when he was pushed back in Germany, they sort of had to leave it in.

Lewis did the same so they couldn't really go back on it but perhaps it illustrated that it needed changing.

Ideally, the FIA should have disqualified Schumacher for getting pushed back into the race but they let it go opening the excuse for others to use a loophole that was never really there.

I do agree with you though that it always should have been illegal and Lewis should have got out of the car and retired.

Another consequense of FIA rules.

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Agreed :up:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I was being sarcastic when I was saying it was a sign of bias ;)

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What do you think of rest of my post? Surely if you agree it was right to let Massa off, same should apply to Hamilton?

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

With the crane incident, it took quite a lot of debating and rule searching to confirm that he shouldn't have been craned back on.

I have no doubt that if he had of scored points, they would have been deducted as would have been entirely justified.

However, he didn't score and therefore, there was no action to be taken.

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Come on Knock On, you seem enough of my posts, source stuff like this please :) .

I'm not aware of this. I understand he was in a dangerous place and was more than entitled to be pushed back on, just like Schumacher a few years before.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Good to see we agree on that :up:

I personally think he should have been black flagged during the race but the end result is the same so no big deal. At least with no being black flagged he could run his race and if need be he could have been penalised and McLaren could have appealed and so on.

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Was it wrong for Schumacher to be pushed back on track before then?

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Originally Posted by PolePosition_1

What do you think of rest of my post? Surely if you agree it was right to let Massa off, same should apply to Hamilton?

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No.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

No.

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Why not? Same principles, but different results.

You think they shouldn't be treated in same way because one is red and one is silver? Whats your reasoning?

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Originally Posted by PolePosition_1

Was it wrong for Schumacher to be pushed back on track before then?

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I didn't see it but by the sounds of it yes.