No takers, huh? I'll ask one, then. :devil:
Which is the oldest state flag in the world still in use by an independent nation?
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No takers, huh? I'll ask one, then. :devil:
Which is the oldest state flag in the world still in use by an independent nation?
vatican
Nope. The current flag of Vatican is as old as the state in its current form - it was adopted in 1929.Quote:
Originally Posted by bowler
The flag I'm looking for is probably from the early 13th century. 1219, according to legend.
Switzerland?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristjan
Good guess and very close in a way, but no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
lichtenstein
Netherlands?
Now say it together boys: I was wrong. :p :
However, the flag of the Netherlands (from 1572) is the oldest tricolour still in use.
A clue: When I said Switzerland was close, I meant in appearance.
The legend places the origin of the flag to the Battle of Lyndanisse, near the current city of Tallinn, the capital of Estonia, on June 15th 1219.
The battle was going badly for the ..., and defeat seemed imminent. But then, right when the ... were about to give up, the flag fell from heaven. Grasping the flag before it could ever touch the ground, the king took it in his hand, and proudly waved it in front of his discouraged troops, giving them hope, and leading them to victory.
So this flag helped the ... invasion force slaughter a good many of my ancestors and get a foothold in Estonia. :hmph:
Of course, it's... ahem, not historically accurate. Flags don't fall from the sky, do they. :)
Ah. Something to do with the Huns or the Rus? Maybe the Swedes? Those Scandinavians enjoyed ransacking their neighbours, didn't they? ,and the Swedish flag has a sort of cross, right? (Like the Swiss)?
Very warm now. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by edv
Denmark? Isn't the English flag based on the Danish flag?
I'm not sure about Danish-English connection, other than that they're both basically crusader flags.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
Yes, Denmark is correct! :up: Your Q Lousada.
I'm not good at questions :\
There is a "Self-governed Monastic State of the Holy Mountain." What's the name of the mountain?
There is no connection. Probably got my urban legends mixed up again :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristjan
Gibralter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
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Originally Posted by Lousada
The Union Jack is a amalgam of to start a) The cross of St.George---white field with red cross and B) then the cross of St.Andrew which is blue field with the white cross in X and finally in 1804~~ish they added C) the cross of St.Patrick which was white field and the red X.
The Swedish flag was supposedly the cross of St. Erik inspired when they were setting off from right where the Finland boats today dock by Slussen at the foot of "Gamla Stan" the Old City on the way to kick some Russian ass cause the Rus and Ukrainians were behind on the protection money the Swedes had managed to squeeze out of them. The story goes they flipped a coin which was they were going to sail, either down the coast and hop over to Gotland and then short hop to what was later Pomerania then coast along the Southern shore of sea and thence to Pskov, Novgorod, Kiev etc, or sail thru the islands to Finland and coast along Finlands Southern Coast and around that way. They decided to go and teach the Finns who were bothering them a lesson, sailed that way and conquered the Finns and gave them a choice to die or come with them and kill Russian, and naturally the Finns thought it'd be more to to kill Russians and so they did and did side by side with the Swedes for about 850 years till the war of 1808-1809.
Danmarks flagg came about according to legend:
Historie
Velkendt maleri af Christian August Lorentzen fra 1809 af begivenhederne i 1219
Ifølge legenden faldt Dannebrog ned fra himlen under slaget ved Lyndanisse (i dag Tallinn i Estland) den 15. juni 1219, den dag som vi i dag kalder Valdemarsdag (Se også Anders Sunesen og Valdemar 2. Sejr). Korstoget i 1219 var med en mægtig hær, som esterne ikke kunne stille noget op imod. Det er dog usikkerhed om tid og sted er korrekte[2].
"accord to legend the "Dannebrog" (their name for the flag) fell down from heaven during the battle at Lyndanisse (today Talinn in Estonia) the 15th of June 1219, the day we today call 'Valdemarsday" (see also Anders Sunesen and Valdemar 2) The Crusade in 1219 was with a powerful army which the Estonians could not stand up to. It is uncertain if the time and place ar correct"
Den ældste kilde siger: Danske i året 1208 kæmpede i Livland, i nutidens Estland på et sted som kaldes Fellin (Viljandi), og (da de næsten var slået) ydmygt påkaldte Guds hjælp, da opnåede de den nåde, at de straks modtog et flag, som faldt ned fra himlen, tegnet med et hvidt kors på en ulden dug. Traditionen fortæller videre, at en himmelsk røst samtidig fortalte, at danskerne ville sejre under dette tegn, hvilket de også gjorde.[3]. Det er usikkert hvad der egentlig skete under slaget ved Lyndanisse eller slaget ved Fellin, og kilderne er først nedskrevet 300 år efter begivenhederne skulle have fundet sted [2]
So yeah crusade but like so many up North it was a crusade Eastward against "heathen" who had not be "Christianized" yet, rather than to the Holy lands and Jerusalem.
Nice to see you around here again, John. :wave:
Lousada, how about Mount Athos? The place to where no female of any species is allowed.
You got it :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristjan
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...er_country.png
What does this map describe?
tons p.c. p.a. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristjan
No doubt! :) But tons of what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
sheep meat :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristjan
That's really hard :s I was thinking of some emissions but not sure what.
Methane?
You're not far from the answer, Caroline!
Refuse/garbage production?
Colder. ;)
Well, I suspect PCPA means Per Capita Per Annum
How about Water Utilized in Bathing? LOL
This Carbon emissions? Per capita?
if you mean Plant Food emissions (CO2), you´re probably right ;)
The right answer is indeed CO2 emissions, in tons per capita per annum. Your Q, Mark!
Canada is a very heavy Carbon per annum emitter. Between our large infrastructure in a large spread out country, and our heavy industrial base, plus the resource based processing, we are doomed. OH ya..and our lousy cold winters!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristjan
So I was able to grasp it.
Anyhow...IN a more light and easy vein.....there only two nations in the world that are considered to be "double landlocked" or surrounded by nations that also don't have a coast. Two nations, surrounded by other landlocked nations.
Name them.
One of them is definitely Liechtenstein. For the other I have to see a map.
Great question! :up:
No idea. :)
Now this I know!
Uzbekistan is the other.
I was researching a question similar to this one last night regarding enclave countries (in the wild hope I might finally get the right answer - then i'd be able to ask an awesome question) and I spotted the "double landlocked" contries then.
But Uzbekistan is neighbouring the Aral Sea.....