56. Renties Ypres Rally Belgium 2021

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

So what you say is the top crews should have given up before the rally, not even trying to be fast?

However the lack of experience was there, as you say. No doubt. That was the point.

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They won't get fast here by crashing on the first day. You don't get the experience by that.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

They won't get fast here by crashing on the first day. You don't get the experience by that.

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They wasn´t in Ypres to crash. They are there for win. In WRC2. Not WRC3, actually. And without experience, too...

I admit, as a teamboss meybe I´d give some advices picked up from local heroes, but doubt it´d helped much...

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

They wasn´t in Ypres to crash. They are there for win. In WRC2. Not WRC3, actually. And without experience, too...

I admit, as a teamboss meybe I´d give some advices picked up from local heroes, but doubt it´d helped much...

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This is at least a decade old discussion which you can find even here on the forum if you follow previous Ypres editions. The thing is that there was a guy named Freddy Loix who won this event ten or eleven times. Nearly every year he won in IRC or ERC there was the very same talk: "Loix won by pure luck. Others were faster, they were just unlucky." Yet it was still the same Loix who was lucky and the same others who were unlucky. There is one thing you can learn from that: It is always possible to go faster but it counts only if you can come fastest in the finish of the event. Even Neuville and Breen failed several times in this very same way before they finally learned how to drive here.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

IMHO Suninen, Huttunen, Solberg, Gryazin are top drivers and they should not end being beaten like this (with the exception being Solberg who was just unlucky unlike his more experienced colleagues).

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None of these ever actually won a WRC or ERC tarmac rally in R5 afaik. So among the fastest R5 drivers yes, but not tarmac aces. ( Well Gryazin can be faster than anyone...until crashing)

Suninen was leading, with 22s to first Belgian before the off. After Friday it was Rossel, Solberg +17. I don't count Rossel as Belgian but I dunno how those French rallies he did look like. In either case he is still in close fight for win.

It's not like the Belgians don't crash (Vanneste, Princen, Tsjoen...), it's that there are many of them with very similar pace.

Anyway my main point was the crazy WRC2 gaps, much bigger than even on most gravel rallies.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

This is at least a decade old discussion which you can find even here on the forum if you follow previous Ypres editions. The thing is that there was a guy named Freddy Loix who won this event ten or eleven times. Nearly every year he won in IRC or ERC there was the very same talk: "Loix won by pure luck. Others were faster, they were just unlucky." Yet it was still the same Loix who was lucky and the same others who were unlucky. There is one thing you can learn from that: It is always possible to go faster but it counts only if you can come fastest in the finish of the event. Even Neuville and Breen failed several times in this very same way before they finally learned how to drive here.

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Did I say anything about luck? Did I say they were unlucky? Read once again before starting to yell...

I said they are up there bcs of experience. Or rather the other way around. Top guys lack of experience.
I never even said local heroes couldn´t dominate. Because I never was thinking about that matter.

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Originally Posted by mknight

Suninen was leading, with 22s to first Belgian before the off. After Friday it was Rossel, Solberg +17. I don't count Rossel as Belgian but I dunno how those French rallies he did look like. In either case he is still in close fight for win..

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The past editions have shown over and over again that results after the first or second loop are of little importance.

My piece of offtopic - most of the times when I see Mirek in action in this forum: http://goodnewsplanet.com/wp-content...575E5F424.jpeg

Not sure, maybe it's already posted here, but 2000 EUR fine for Taka because didn't press "ok" button in 1 minute after crash.... (Facepalm!)

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/s...588288/photo/1

GG with technical problems. Driving in roadmode.

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Still servo-steering or something else now?

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He's been loosing time consistently throughout the day so yeah I imagine.

There was just a regroup midday today right? No service?