F1 2010: Testing sessions thread

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Originally Posted by henners88

That was also the point I was trying to make. I have no doubt it is the best car Fernando has driven but at this early stage, he like ourselves do not know how it will fair once in a proper race situation. Saying he is a double WDC to back up the fact that Alonso has made a claim is silly really. Schuey once said that he expected Liuzzi to be a WDC and a major force in F1 after he beat Schuey at a Karting event in 2001. Schuey also reckoned Button would be his toughest rival in the coming years prior to the 2004 season. F1 drivers have a better insight than any of us, but they can also make claims designed to get coverage going into a season like the one coming up.

Lots of fuss and claims have been thrown around about the lap times of the Ferrari, but it has not been the fastest overall in the 3 tests. The Mclaren has topped the time sheets twice, but we have no idea what fuel load and instructions were given to make this the case. I'm not getting my hopes up over a fast time when there are many factors to take into consideration this season regarding maintaining a lead throughout each race. One blog says its the Ferrari, another says its the Mclaren, Alonso is confident with his car, Hamilton is bigging up his. Its all banter until we know for sure, and the team best set up at the start will not necessarily be the best come the season close. :)

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And there is the usual double standard also - Alonso claims it is the best car and OMG!! watch out all!, similarly if Schumacher had set quickest time at Jerez it would have been heralded from the rooftops and "poor Nico" and the eigth title is on the way.

Instead Button sets the quickest time of the whole eight days at Jerez almost a second quicker, the Mclaren team reportedly try and contain their happiness and what happens?

Oh Mclaren were on low fuel and must have been time of day and so on. Button? Who? As usual.

Of course if precious little Lewis had set the time there would have been wakes held over Jenson's career at Mclaren.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

And there is the usual double standard also - Alonso claims it is the best car and OMG!! watch out all!, similarly if Schumacher had set quickest time at Jerez it would have been heralded from the rooftops and "poor Nico" and the eigth title is on the way.

Instead Button sets the quickest time of the whole eight days at Jerez almost a second quicker, the Mclaren team reportedly try and contain their happiness and what happens?

Oh Mclaren were on low fuel and must have been time of day and so on. Button? Who? As usual.

Of course if precious little Lewis had set the time there would have been wakes held over Jenson's career at Mclaren.

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Yes, this is true. But hopefully Jenson will prove his critics wrong. We have to remember that Hakkinen had only one gifted win prior to 1998 and in his time, when he was winning it was always the car and never the driver. But now he is considered to be a F1 legend and one of the fastest guys ever... On the other hand Damon, who was also a brilliant driver (I think that he has more wins than Hakkinen, BTW) is still underestimated.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

I disagree vehemently. Michael has faced Ayrton,

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Yep, wiping Ayrton out several times in one race, that had to be restarted as a result.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Alain

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At the end of his career

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Nige

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, at the end of his career in F1.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Damon, the impossibly fast Mika Hakkinen, the crazy Montoya, his own brother, who was no slouch, Kimi... he has no reason the fear a bunch of kids ;) Although I do admit that Alonso and Lewis are formidable rivals.

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These are better representatives.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

And there is the usual double standard also - Alonso claims it is the best car and OMG!! watch out all!, similarly if Schumacher had set quickest time at Jerez it would have been heralded from the rooftops and "poor Nico" and the eigth title is on the way.

Instead Button sets the quickest time of the whole eight days at Jerez almost a second quicker, the Mclaren team reportedly try and contain their happiness and what happens?

Oh Mclaren were on low fuel and must have been time of day and so on. Button? Who? As usual.

Of course if precious little Lewis had set the time there would have been wakes held over Jenson's career at Mclaren.

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You spend too much time thinking......

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

You is missing the point brother.

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Not really. The original point raised was that no one believed Fred that the F10 was proper quick. As you say, none of us norms know the answer to any of the questions you mentioned, however its a fair bet that Ferrari (and the other teams) have a pretty large amount of data allowing them to draw conclusions on their pace. For Fred to go from saying in the first test "Ok, we are fastest but I'm keeping my feet on the ground" to "OMG this car is freakin' awesome" after the latest test (ok so not his exact words) suggests to me he has every reason to believe what he is saying.

My point was that he is experienced enough to be believed and not have interweb hacks pretending they know more than him or the Ferrari team.

All that said I still expect McLaren, RBR and Merc to have a serious say in who takes home the silverware this year.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Yes, this is true. But hopefully Jenson will prove his critics wrong. We have to remember that Hakkinen had only one gifted win prior to 1998 and in his time, when he was winning it was always the car and never the driver. But now he is considered to be a F1 legend and one of the fastest guys ever... On the other hand Damon, who was also a brilliant driver (I think that he has more wins than Hakkinen, BTW) is still underestimated.

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My sentiments exactly :D

But part of the whole configured Schumacher religion. I am a great defender of Damon's honor and his father would have been immensely proud of him.

Damon epitomizes character. In 1995 after Australia there was not a whine, a complaint an accusation or anything else that is common with too many these days. Just the Hill look and Graham was surely smiling in motor racing heaven that day!

One more win to Damon - ought to have been TWO - that brilliant drive at Hungaroring :s mokin:

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Originally Posted by henners88

Indeed there would, but I must be honest if Lewis had have set a quicker time in the wet conditions compared to Button's dry run, that would be wholely justified.. :p

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Top gear power board anyone? ;)

Jenson has always proved his critics wrong.

Anyone requiring "proof" bow in my view is an ass - Jenson should just ignore them.

He is world champion and Kimi's sentiments are appropriate here.

I am missing the Finn already and it remains a indictment of the people in F1 that he is NOT in one of the best cars this year.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

My sentiments exactly :D

But part of the whole configured Schumacher religion. I am a great defender of Damon's honor and his father would have been immensely proud of him.

Damon epitomizes character. In 1995 after Australia there was not a whine, a complaint an accusation or anything else that is common with too many these days. Just the Hill look and Graham was surely smiling in motor racing heaven that day!

One more win to Damon - ought to have been TWO - that brilliant drive at Hungaroring :s mokin:

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I agree about Hungary. It was an amazing drive. I have to say that part of my immense dislike to JV is probably that lucky win. And I agree that Damon was very, very fast, on his day unbeatable. And I really really can't understand the argument that he is bad, because he is slower than Michael. Michael is or at least was the best driver ever, in my opinion. There is nothing wrong to be slower than him. It is like to say - silver is not as precious as gold, so it is useless...

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Originally Posted by F1boat

And I really really can't understand the argument that he is bad, because he is slower than Michael. Michael is or at least was the best driver ever, in my opinion. There is nothing wrong to be slower than him. It is like to say - silver is not as precious as gold, so it is useless...

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Because Damon was impotent in 1995 and should've won WDC.