M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

There is a reason why Extreme E is going to be replaced with Extreme H as soon as from 2025 season. There are new tides in the sustainability trends; Toyota also pushes more for Hydrogen then electric.

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Originally Posted by AndersX

There is a reason why Extreme E is going to be replaced with Extreme H as soon as from 2025 season. There are new tides in the sustainability trends; Toyota also pushes more for Hydrogen then electric.

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Forgive my stupid question, but hydrogen-powered cars have electric engines, right? or not?

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

Forgive my stupid question, but hydrogen-powered cars have electric engines, right? or not?

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"Motive power is generated by converting the chemical energy of hydrogen to mechanical energy, either by reacting hydrogen with oxygen in a fuel cell to power electric motors or, less commonly, by hydrogen internal combustion."[wikipedia]

i guess the focus here is on the latter.

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Originally Posted by Franky

With this "Rally2+", I don't understand why no one has mentioned keeping spaceframes as it's supposed to be an easier (and most likely cheaper?) way of making the car without having to work on modifying an existing shell? Also if the homologation rules would be relaxed more, it could open up the path for non-manufacturers.

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Exactly. Wanna keep costs down and make it possible for new manufacturers to join? Just use space frame and fill the car with as many production parts as possible. Use cheaper body panels instead of carbon. Use road cars based engines. Use only transmission, suspension etc. that anyone can buy on market.

Making Rally2+ is just a short term solution that would move WRC back to 2011, when something like that happened and everyone can see that it was a terrible move.

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Originally Posted by wyler

both:
"Motive power is generated by converting the chemical energy of hydrogen to mechanical energy, either by reacting hydrogen with oxygen in a fuel cell to power electric motors or, less commonly, by hydrogen internal combustion."[wikipedia]

i guess the focus here is on the latter.

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Thanks for your reply. But I'm afraid that the focus here is on the former...

https://i.postimg.cc/cC2VfkNm/418503...74092632-n.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7YTvq4gQ/419859...41801054-n.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/c1zyqC8n/419740...86788349-n.jpg

You learn from the best!
He saw Tanak doing it all the time last year and knows he has to do it also :D
So better practise it on PET(R) - pre-event test&repair.

M-Sport will introduce a new rear wing upgrade to its World Rally Championship Ford Puma this season and is working to address last year’s costly reliability issues.

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...plan/10566057/

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

Thanks for your reply. But I'm afraid that the focus here is on the former...

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Toyota's focus is on the hydrogen ICE. But other manus, as well as Extreme H, focus on hydrogen cell powered electric engines.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth

Exactly. Wanna keep costs down and make it possible for new manufacturers to join? Just use space frame and fill the car with as many production parts as possible. Use cheaper body panels instead of carbon. Use road cars based engines. Use only transmission, suspension etc. that anyone can buy on market.

Making Rally2+ is just a short term solution that would move WRC back to 2011, when something like that happened and everyone can see that it was a terrible move.

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Can you explain your last point re 2011 cars ? There were more WRC1 entries including private runners with those cars...