Same as Kremer last season.
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Same as Kremer last season.
It was funny seeing some of you panic at the thought of Serderidis as No3.
On the subject.. the latest M-Sport Supporters Club email I received is using this logo:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
https://i.imgur.com/NvxC3v4.jpg
That's the official logo for this year. The service park tents in RMC had them.
Why not. He was crowned 2017 WRC Trophy ChampionQuote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
Block will most likely be a 4th car. The budget he brings in with Monster is ridiculous. Not sure how that works with Red Bull sponsoring Seb and Evans, but I'm sure Block would do something like Mads...
Buy his own car and use his own mechanics? I doubt that..Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
Whichever event Block enters, he will be there with his team (Hoonigan Racing Division), separately from the main team.
In 2017 it was only Ogier's car that was RB sponsored and was probably just an extension of his person sponsorship. With Red Bull sponsoring both the main cars in 2018 and also the R5's of Sunnien and Camilli it seems that they have become more of an official team sponsor this year.
Ford Performance's facilities are now at M-Sport's disposal and it looks like a lot of upgrades to the WRC Fiesta will be coming soon. This is why Ogier needed Ford to 'come back', as the WRC Fiesta was basically running unchanged throughout 2017 while the other factory teams were already making changes.
They are all RB athletes now. Others don`t use the livery (Bouffier for example).
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/athlet...-suninen-rally
M-Sport build proper machine from the start, others start with garbage and then make upgrades to match it's rivalQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
They all did, even Citroen, which is/ was not so universal unfortunately. M-sport made a rugid and universal car and gave it into the hands of capable drivers.
What experience and changes do you think Ford performance will bring to M-Sport? To be honest, I would maybe think they can possibly do something with the engine, but I can't see how they can bring technical assistance to the rest of the car. M-Sport are doing an incredible job and they have basically funded the Fiesta development through the sales of customer cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
The way I see it, is that they are the experts, not ford performance.
Like I said, possibly the engine (as in Ford can blow as many up as they want testing and developing), but M-Sport shouldn't be underestimated, Eddie, they are the ones with the knowledge in this situation.
Ford will probably just help from a budget point of view and make it 'look' like they are responsible for some additional development, whereas it's probably their cash, not their technical input.
Just my opinion, but I can't see how they could just come into the WRC blind and 'bring' all this new technology. And don't forget, Ford trusted M-Sport to run the whole show when they were an official manufacturer...
Ford Performance have a lot of research facilities a their disposal such as windtunnels and computer simulations, currently mostly used for track car engineering (Ford GT WEC). I'm pretty sure the M-Sport boys know what they can make good use of and what is irrelevant to developping a rally car. They currently have the best of both worlds. But as all team managers have alredy stated, progress will not be dramatic. Everyone but Citroen already has a strong package and is close to what the regulations allow. Each team is basically just looking to eliminate their respective weeknesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
I think Ford Performance mostly brought the aero development side in addition to supplying budget, this was stated in an interview.
So not much (technical) then... interesting to see how the aero progresses.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Front of the car is the same, from what I can see and they have had a few months at least to make changes.
Haven’t had a good look at the rear spoiler, so I’m not sure if it’s any different.
Pretty sure that it was also stated that no aero changes would happen in first few racesQuote:
Originally Posted by T16
Readed that Fiesta 2018 only in Mexico
Wilson and Ogier have both made it clear that Ford Performance will help to improve and develop the Fiesta. It's not a case of Ford just providing money for M-Sport to do it. FP have a huge amount of technical facilities and expertise and a lot is transferable to a rally car.
Like I said above, I think you are underestimating M-Sport, Eddie. I'm not entirely convinced that Ford's performance department does have that many skills that M-Sport doesn't already have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Wilson and Ogier, I guess, will have to say that Ford are contributing from a technical POV, but M-sport created the car as it is and I think Ford could learn from them, not the other way around.
Maybe I see Ford Performance as more of a sponsor, rather than a development partner.
Still a win-win situation for both parties.
Not entirely sure, but what contribution do Toyota make to the development of the Yaris? (I don't think it's a great deal) and that car has seen great success, considering it's age and the short history of Makkinen's operation, which runs it.
I guess time will tell though and it will become more apparent, one way or the other as the season unfolds.
Eddie, on another note; any idea where I can find spectator info for the Malcolm Wilson rally? Cheers.
Underestimating M-Sport is the last thing I'm doing, especially after what they achieved last year. As a long-time supporter I'm well aware of their qualities.
But if Ogier says he needs Ford (Performance) to keep developing the car and make him stay then thats good enough for me.
February 24th Estonia has it's Independence day. Every year presidents gives out orders for notable people. This year one of the recipients is Malcolm Wilson
Maarjamaa Cross V class
Malcolm Irving Wilson
Estonian motorsport supporter, United Kingdom
Malcolm Wilson has played an important part in Estonian motorsport. He helped Markko Märtin as well
Ott Tänäk to rally world stars. Giving the opportunity to thousands
Estonians to spectate alongside rally tracks around the world
and hundreds of thousands Estonians to follow
their achievements through the media.
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudise...id?id=81008665
After Mexico, a Fiesta WRC will join the Ford Performance workshops in the USA to work on the aero and the engine. For Wilson, the car did not suffer a big évol for this start of the season, progress will be visible in the second part of the year.
https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/status/962257538497605632
Ford Performance website now doing WRC preview:
http://performance.ford.com/series/r...or-sweden.html
Maybe Ford Performance involvement should be main reason why WRC is thinking about adding rally in Canada?
https://twitter.com/Ovale_Bleu/statu...773219841?s=20
https://twitter.com/SVrally/status/9...350588418?s=20
When was the last time Ford brought three cars with identical liveries to a WRC event?
They're still not identical...Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Bean counter. The basic livery is identical. It's just a couple of different sponsors on Suninen's car.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
ha ha... wasn't being pedantic... genuinely didn't know if you had spotted the rear qtr panel decals..Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
2013 Wales for Ostberg/ Novikov and Neuville under the Qatar colours.
Don't fancy citroens chances much with those tyres ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Ugh, dont remind me ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
Shockingly unfortunate Rally Sweden and now MSport are playing catch-up.
I think my prediction of no chance in the Manu's is already proven.
Too early to make predictions. Elfyn and Suninen will have excellent starting positions in Mexico and Ogier will surely fair much better. My money is on Ford bouncing back.
MW interview on Sweden and Mexico...
http://talkativebroadcasting.co.uk/m...RT_MWILSON.mp3
It looks a new solution to suplementary lights. Not fixed but in bumper
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXOshjTX...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXOshjSX...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXOshjVW...pg&name=medium
Same in Sweden under MSRT covers
Plastic cover
https://scontent.fopo2-2.fna.fbcdn.n...00&oe=5B47BEB8
Has been like that from the beginning.