Hamilton: Maybe it's because I'm black

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Erm, sorry now but this is completely far fetched wishful thinking here. You're saying that Maldonado couldn't tell the difference in hearing a car two or three metres from his head and a one 100m in front of him? You're also saying that a car a further 50M back somehow made him believe Lewis wasn't there? This is desparate. Hearing a car 100M in front of you and a one 50 M behind is fine but the McLaren was right beside him. C'mon now, in fairness, he had his mirrors, he had his ears and a McLaren engine pumping into his ears and you say to me that he didn't know Lewis was there? If he can't distinguish between a McLaren right in his ear and two cars 100M in front and 50M behind him the man should not be in F1. The cars around him have nothing to do with influencing his decision.

I agree it's possible he didn't know Lewis was there, but that's only the case if he wasn't listening and didn't look in his mirrors or hadn't positioned them correctly. If an F1 driver hasn't done that then any incident that occurs as a result of that is his fault.

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So it comes down to the fact that Hamilton is perfect and can do no wrong and OBVIOUSLY Massa and Maldonado should have just let him through.....

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Couldn't agree more. People are trying to justify last weekend because Senna would have done the same or Schumacher let Hamilton through or whatever, that's besides the point, Hamilton aimed for spaces he must surely have known weren't going to be there in a second or two and he got penalised.......

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Do you want a procession? Overtaking has an element of risk.

Lewis is a racer - yes it comes at a price but he's pulled off some fantastic moves in his time.

I have to say that Hamilton's moves on Maldonado and also Schumacher were pretty much banzai moves, which for instance Sato got a lot of bashing for many years ago. You may expect some of such moves to work out, but they will never work out consistently, so Lewis can take a look in the mirror. Especially in Maldonado's case he was never alongside going into the corner, so this wasn't going to work out in a clean way.

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Originally Posted by wedge

Do you want a procession? Overtaking has an element of risk.

Lewis is a racer - yes it comes at a price but he's pulled off some fantastic moves in his time.

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Yes and the risk is that if you don't make the move stick and take the other guy out, that you get penalised.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Yes and the risk is that if you don't make the move stick and take the other guy out, that you get penalised.

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You're basically saying that anytime someone tries to do an overtaking maneuver that, no matter how well positioned they are, the other guy simply has to turn in on him and then that guy is at fault. Jaysus.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

So it comes down to the fact that Hamilton is perfect and can do no wrong and OBVIOUSLY Massa and Maldonado should have just let him through.....

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Every driver does wrong, and Hamilton has done so himself, as I said a few posts up. But he didn't in this case. Definitely not.

Found this onboard footage of Hamilton and Massa. It shows Hamilton getting alongside Massa in the tunnel

YouTube - ‪F1 2011 Monaco Hamilton Onboard Crash Massa‬‏

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

You're basically saying that anytime someone tries to do an overtaking maneuver that, no matter how well positioned they are, the other guy simply has to turn in on him and then that guy is at fault. Jaysus.

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Well if Felipe and Pastor wanted to make their corners they had to turn in sometime......

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Well if Felipe and Pastor wanted to make their corners they had to turn in sometime......

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Been over that. They both turned in too early. Only difference with the Massa one is that Hamilton actually was over ambitious.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Been over that. They both turned in too early.

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According to the Lewis Hamilton fan club......