F1 2010: Testing sessions thread

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23rd February 2010, 21:03

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Originally Posted by henners88

so lets leave it there.. :)

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23rd February 2010, 21:20
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by henners88

Or roughly translated:
"I have no facts or proof to suggest Alonso was ratted out by his team, and realised my arguement had failed when I accused Ron Dennis of being a cheat and then realised Alonso had been a cheat in the original crime. My pride doesn't allow me to concede defeat so I'll replace my reasoned response with a witty, condescending reply"... :p

Seriously though this stale debate has nothing to do with testing, so lets leave it there.. :)

what a peaceful man you are. This is like putting on the condom after having sexy time.
24th February 2010, 00:46
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by Sonic

That is the strangest way to look at it. That's like if Luca Badoer came out and said the F60 was the best car he'd even raced - it was, but against the competition it wasn't.

Why oh why would a double WDC come out and make such an obvious statement, he wouldnt . The only logical thing he could mean is that the F10 is the car that he believes will see him lift a 3rd title.

I do not think it is strange - it is entirely plausible. You can draw that conclusion about Fernando - my point was that it may be the best car he has driven for the reasons I gave, but we have no idea how it will peform versus the others, and neither does Alonso.

But as it IS Alonso and if it IS a good car, then ALONSO has a good chance of winning - not by implication Massa.

If Badoer said it was the best car it would carry little weight - albeit that the press treated Luca abominably, notwithstanding the Italian did not acquit himself well. Allowing Grosjean by, in the pit exit lane AND infringing the blend line at Valencia was the most peculiar action.

Definitely both Badoer and Fisichella did not cloak themselves in glory - but the F60 was extremely difficult to learn at such short notice as Giancarlo showed.
24th February 2010, 01:06
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by wedge

What disgrace? He finished second in WDC. He cheated and still lost!

Alonso blackmailled his own boss which is far more disgraceful IMO. Not even Schumi or Senna sunk that low. ....OK maybe Senna in '93! :D

The point is, both have used devious/underhand/unsporting tactics in the past.

There is a difference between being dangerous and cheating on track and using leverage in a fit of pique to try and engineer one's own goal within a team - a team whose principal had no idea HOW to manage the situation - something Ron Dennis now admits was mishandled.

"Blackmail" is not the correct word.

What Senna did was even worse and he ought to have been thrown out of the sport.

Schumacher will find that he needs to get his in car temper under control as F1 has changed since he last raced.

For the first time in his F1 career Schumi will face a field that has depth of ability and those same drivers contain people that will not be rattled by his close on track presence and one driver who knows he has beaten him - twice. Luca alluded to that!
24th February 2010, 10:00
Sonic

Ok, if him being a Double WDC isn't enough to take him at face value how about simple maths. The best lap we have seen in testing at Jerez is some 3+ seconds down on the best the V10's could managed so it is not the the fastest car he has even driven, so he must be refering to its pace against his rivals when he speaks of it being his best car ever.
24th February 2010, 10:04
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Ok, if him being a Double WDC isn't enough to take him at face value how about simple maths. The best lap we have seen in testing at Jerez is some 3+ seconds down on the best the V10's could managed so it is not the the fastest car he has even driven, so he must be refering to its pace against his rivals when he speaks of it being his best car ever.

You is missing the point brother.

How heavy or light was his car?

How heavy or light were the others?

What compound of tyre was he running?

What compound of tyre were the others running?

Were the tyres new, or worn?

Is the car good at heating the tyre, does it look after the tyre(s)?

How many laps was the stint that the fastest time was set on?

Come up with the answers to the above, and you are about a quarter of the way to knowing who is where.

Alonso's soundbite is what is called 'media games'.
24th February 2010, 10:06
SGWilko

Next, you need to consider aero efficiency, speed trap figures, COG, aero balance, cooling, diffuser efficiency.

I could go on........

(my wife tells me I do anyway...!!!!)
24th February 2010, 10:08
SGWilko

Think about this - teams that have thus far run the tank dry to guage fuel flow and consumption have not set the fastest laps during the run?

You'd think that, running on fumes, they would, huh?

So you see, cards are played very close to the chest in the testing game.....
24th February 2010, 10:17
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24th February 2010, 11:09
F1boat

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

For the first time in his F1 career Schumi will face a field that has depth of ability

I disagree vehemently. Michael has faced Ayrton, Alain, Nige, Damon, the impossibly fast Mika Hakkinen, the crazy Montoya, his own brother, who was no slouch, Kimi... he has no reason the fear a bunch of kids ;) Although I do admit that Alonso and Lewis are formidable rivals.

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