Ahh but you have to remember its always OK for Loeb and Citroen to cheat but ohhhhhhh not for anyone else........what a complete joke this forum is!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamikaze
I have said fo many years that Citroen are nothing but cheats
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Ahh but you have to remember its always OK for Loeb and Citroen to cheat but ohhhhhhh not for anyone else........what a complete joke this forum is!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamikaze
I have said fo many years that Citroen are nothing but cheats
Thank you !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
I´m curios who else is so honest.......
@xsara-Fan:
In other Words you say:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsara Fan
If Ford do it, it is cheating
If Citroen do it it is OK
Strange.....
Oh Loeb... what are you doing :( ?
I just saw the coverage of day 1 and I must say Loeb had very much luck there. He almost rolled, but didn't. The starter problem from Loeb was for sure tactics, good to see on television in the coverage, and he did it again at the end of day 2. Just as Kamikaze and Brother John said, where are all the Ford bashers now?
@ John V: I really hope too that Prokop will win the PWRC, but there is still a long way to go and he had so much bad luck so he really deserved a win. As some of you know, I support the Czech, Finnish and off course Belgian driver(s).
What is P. Solberg doing? He must retire from the sport, he is not motivated enough and he hasn't the speed anymore since years.
You Ford guys are a bunch of hypocrites.
Did you think that when Ford started using tactics that Citroen would be willing to lose the title on this? Ford forced the problem into the sport this year and now it’s 1-1 and you have tasted your own medicine.
And now we can only hope for FIA to find a solution so we don’t have to watch this tactical crap next year. I simply don’t want to waste my time for two days of good Rally to end up with this.
I dont think so MikeD what I see is Loeb lovers only seeing what they want to see and slagging Ford off but not the cheating Citroens
You must understand them, their God Loeb has done the same thing as the cheating Ford-Boys :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
Hard for them.....
I don't believe this forum is cut in two districts, Ford- and Citroen lovers. There are fans of other manufactureres and us, who aren't basicly fans of any manufacturer, or equally support them all but therefore, couldn't care a rat's *** who started the tactics or who's to blame. What I do believe is that if only FIA could find a solution to this starting order issue we could all be happier.
You are correct here and now, the current second rate teams do not get much benefit from the road order rule as it seems that Suzuki is unwilling and Subaru is unable to make technological progress (and B-teams do no development at all). But if we had a true newcomer in class of Toyota or Peugeot, the longer uphill struggle to the top in form of reversed running order might discourage them. This very argument was brought up by teams like Hyundai and Skoda at the time when we had seven works teams in WRC. Oh, those were the times...Quote:
Originally Posted by xavier
It is a problem, there is no doubt of that. But how big problem it is really? For us fans, I think that most do not like the associated game in tactics. But for casual observer and manufacturers (who are in for those casual observers, not us hardcore fans), I do not think they see much of it or even know about it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by xavier
That's because news on papers, TV or net do mention it but do not gloat about it (at least those I've read or seen). And if casual observer doesn't know any better, he thinks it's natural part of the game. Which it in fact is because of the rules.
Those who know better or happen to stand near stop control of the final SS it is detrimental, of course. I would, as I've said already, rather see flat out driving for three days but I understand FIA's reasoning behind this rule change.
What I dont understand is why are people calling for Petter to retire?
Surely there are lots of drivers who should retire first because they're worse. Drivers like Wilson, Henning and Galli are worse, despite having an equal or better car, and recently Petter has been better than Atko as well, but no-ones calling for them to retire.
All Petter needs is a better car where there is a chance for a win - he wont win the drivers championship, but he could still be an asset for the sport, and perhaps create a great fight for third next year.
Loeb and Mikko will be top 2, with JML, Sordo, Atko and hopefully Petter close battle for third. I think next season will be great.